From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:36 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443277938 22843 80.91.229.3 (26 Sep 2015 14:32:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 14:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 26 16:32:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfqW4-0003BU-DU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 16:31:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54012 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfqW3-0006oJ-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfqVt-0006nT-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfqVs-0008LO-Dh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41067) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfqVm-0008Gu-Qx; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61191611C3; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 8lnfXnZCb1P1; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424E71611C7; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id y24MYETIdvur; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 216921611BF; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190359 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You are assuming that those "remaining developers" use Emacs only for > working on Emacs, is that right? No, I am assuming that the typical default nowadays, for text that is not otherwise labeled, is to use UTF-8. This is a reasonable assumption. It's not always correct, but exceptions can be handled. I see that you have added more coding: cookies. Oh well. I do take your point that we need a better solution than what we have.