From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:44:05 -0700 Message-ID: <56009CA1-80D6-43CC-BC46-42002D2B4498@mit.edu> References: <4C3EBCDC.8050709@swipnet.se> <83d3upgmwj.fsf@gnu.org> <4C3ECB4C.6050208@swipnet.se> <83aaptgly1.fsf@gnu.org> <4C3ED4F9.4080603@swipnet.se> <83630hgi0r.fsf@gnu.org> <4C3EE8D6.3020607@swipnet.se> <8339vlgcax.fsf@gnu.org> <87fwzkbzg8.fsf@telefonica.net> <877hkwag6y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hkwbth6.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pqyofzdg.fsf@gnu.org> <8739vkbpq5.fsf@telefonica.net> <83oce8fwlq.fsf@gnu.org> <87tyo0a11p.fsf@telefonica.net> <83k4ovg7rn.fsf@gnu.org> <87630fa4j8.fsf@telefonica.net> <83d3unfo92.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrsv8l6u.fsf@telefonica.net> <83bpa7feta.fsf@gnu.org> <87zkxr6s34.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279323862 24977 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 23:44:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 17 01:44:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZuZn-0005iJ-M7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:44:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZuZm-0005BQ-TV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39572 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZuZg-0005BA-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZuZf-0002rX-Ni for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu ([18.7.68.35]:45910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZuZf-0002rS-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:11 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074423-b7be0ae000000a83-17-4c40eecbe6d6 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.21.35]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 98.C7.02691.BCEE04C4; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o6GNiAXR028062; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.0.143] ([64.241.37.140]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o6GNi70k014114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:44:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zkxr6s34.fsf@telefonica.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127463 Archived-At: On Jul 16, 2010, at 2:21 PM, =D3scar Fuentes wrote: >=20 > I want to use Qt. The easiest way for that is to use C++. There are Qt > bindings for several languages (Python included) but there are no = Emacs > bindings for them (and if you see potential low-level compatibility > problems with C++, what can we expect from Python?) I'm thinking on = the > possibility of using a private language of mine, which is very C/C++ > friendly and much more productive than C++. This means less work and > more fun for me, but it makes very difficult for anybody else to look > into the project. IMO C++ is the only sensible option. I think what Eli is trying to tell you is this: If you use Python, you can use the existing python<->C bridges. If you = use C++, you can't count on being able to use new /delete or anything = that uses them (which will include a huge chunk of C++, and probably a = huge chunk of Qt). If I understand you correctly, you're trying to communicate the idea = ``yeah, it'll probably be rough, but I'm comfortable with C++ and am = willing to try to make it work''. Unfortunately, what you're saying is = much closer to ``how hard can it be?'' -- which leads many people = (especially programmers) to answer the question -- and in this case it = can be really quite hard. I hope this helps.=20 *Chad P.S. ...who really just wants to see if an emacs that can `do' CSS3 is = viable, but asked a big question and then left the country for two = days...