From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:25:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E7776D.2010102@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4goyax4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 09/02/2015 10:43 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
> ' is an_apostrophe_. Changing it to an open single quote
> mark in words like "don't" is utterly wrong
I assume you meant “close single quote” not “open single quote”. (It
would indeed be utterly wrong to transliterate apostrophe to open single
quote, but Emacs doesn’t do that.)
The initial version of the quote-tranformation code behaved as you
suggested, and left isolated apostrophes alone. But Dmitry pointed out
that apostrophe in English is represented by right single quotation mark
as standard typographic practice in fonts with directed quotes, so I
changed Emacs to translate all non-escaped apostrophes. In practice
most isolated apostrophes in docstrings and diagnostics are intended to
be English apostrophes, so it seemed appropriate to transliterate them
as in English, of course with an escape hatch for those intended to be
Elisp apostrophes.
For more about common practice with apostrophes in natural-language
text, please see <http://www.languagegeek.com/typography/apostrophes.html>.
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[not found] ` <E1ZWIKb-0007FR-Kk@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-08-31 6:26 ` [Emacs-diffs] master b533552 2/5: Documentation fixes re quotes Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:39 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 6:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:53 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 7:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 7:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 1:05 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 1:27 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 1:30 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 5:30 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 15:40 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 16:32 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-03 15:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 17:42 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 21:50 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 22:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 22:47 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 22:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-07 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1ZWIKd-0007Fs-15@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-08-31 6:29 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:38 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 17:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 18:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 18:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-31 17:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 18:03 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 1:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-01 3:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 6:29 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 10:45 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 10:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-01 11:22 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 11:40 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 11:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 12:06 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 14:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 10:16 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-03 11:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-03 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 13:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 14:15 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 19:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 4:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 5:28 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 10:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 11:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 15:41 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 15:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 16:38 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 15:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 17:26 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 16:32 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 17:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 17:43 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 22:25 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2015-09-03 10:48 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-03 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-03 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 22:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 12:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-03 14:56 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-04 13:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 19:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-07 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 19:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 2:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 5:23 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 11:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 11:52 ` Quoting yank/diff prefixes (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim) David Kastrup
2015-09-03 14:34 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 1:20 ` Paul Eggert
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