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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: text-quoting-style
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:27:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E5D1E6.9040003@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150901124756.GB2362@acm.fritz.box>

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Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> It's what Emacs does now, and it works well enough.  And the basic idea
>> >isn't a new principle: Emacs has done it for decades for many ASCII
>> >characters, e.g., HT.  So it is not a problem in practice.
> It will be a problem in practice.  It will by lying about what character
> in the buffer the glyph on the screen represents.

Again, there's nothing new here: Emacs has been "lying" in that way for decades 
for HT and for several other ASCII characters, and it works in practice.

>   It will be ambiguous:

That's easily enough fixed.  I installed the attached patch, which uses shadow 
glyphs for quote substitutions in ASCII-only displays.  If you prefer underline 
or some other glyph face on your console please feel free to change the code.

>> text-quoting-style doesn't do anything for info files, or
>> for other text files containing curved quotes.
>
> That's an argument for an additional facility for Info

The additional facility I proposed would work for info, and would also work for 
*Help* buffers and diagnostics and would render text-quoting-style unnecessary.

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From 1a3518e7c361a9ceaa017c1334a83d14e0651a4e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:18:12 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Display replacement quotes with shadow glyphs

* lisp/startup.el (command-line): When displaying ASCII
replacements for curved quotes, use a shadow glyph instead of a
regular one, to avoid ambiguity.
---
 lisp/startup.el | 5 +++--
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 8c63ed2..3e29739 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -1018,11 +1018,12 @@ please check its value")
     (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
 
   ;; If curved quotes don't work, display ASCII approximations.
-  (dolist (char-repl '((?‘ . [?\`]) (?’ . [?\']) (?“ . [?\"]) (?” . [?\"])))
+  (dolist (char-repl '((?‘ . ?\`) (?’ . ?\') (?“ . ?\") (?” . ?\")))
     (when (not (char-displayable-p (car char-repl)))
       (or standard-display-table
           (setq standard-display-table (make-display-table)))
-      (aset standard-display-table (car char-repl) (cdr char-repl))))
+      (aset standard-display-table (car char-repl)
+            (vector (make-glyph-code (cdr char-repl) 'shadow)))))
   (setq internal--text-quoting-flag t)
 
   ;; Re-evaluate predefined variables whose initial value depends on
-- 
2.1.4


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-01 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-28  2:03 text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28  5:22 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-08-28  7:06 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28  7:37   ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28  7:54     ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28  8:42       ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 14:39         ` text-quoting-style Yuri Khan
2015-08-28 14:49           ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 15:00         ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 15:31           ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 15:39             ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 15:48               ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28  7:29 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 16:42   ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28 17:25     ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-28 17:48       ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 18:28         ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-29 14:54       ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-29 15:59         ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-30  1:59           ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-30 13:16             ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-31  1:30               ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31  6:29                 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 20:13                   ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-31 21:29                     ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 12:47                       ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 16:27                         ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2015-09-01 17:07                           ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 18:35                           ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 23:58                             ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02  9:09                               ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 15:13                                 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 18:44                           ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 19:08                             ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 13:46                       ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 16:28                         ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 17:08                           ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 17:34                             ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 18:30                               ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02  0:07                                 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02  0:27                                   ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02 15:35                               ` text-quoting-style Richard Stallman
2015-08-31 20:01                 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01  3:31                   ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01  9:28                     ` text-quoting-style Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 10:53                       ` text-quoting-style Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 13:03                     ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 16:46                       ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 20:41                         ` text-quoting-style Bastien
2015-09-01 23:47                           ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02  0:18                             ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02  0:35                               ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02  0:53                                 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02  6:57                             ` text-quoting-style Bastien
2015-09-02 15:17                               ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 15:36                                 ` text-quoting-style Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 15:41                                 ` text-quoting-style Bastien Guerry
2015-09-01 22:55                     ` text-quoting-style Richard Stallman
2015-09-02  9:05                       ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-31 16:10       ` text-quoting-style N. Jackson
2015-08-31 17:31         ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 19:34           ` text-quoting-style N. Jackson
2015-09-03 15:29             ` text-quoting-style raman
2015-08-31  6:15     ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert

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