From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21385: 24.5; Emacs Lisp Manual, section 17.3 "Debugging Invalid Lisp Syntax": wording can be improved Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: <55E44E0F.3040507@lsv.ens-cachan.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070806050205010003080704" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441027104 25008 80.91.229.3 (31 Aug 2015 13:18:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:18:24 +0000 (UTC) To: 21385@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 31 15:18:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyR-00074h-8R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:18:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37219 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyQ-0004ah-ES for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:18:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyL-0004XM-Sm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:18:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyJ-00073m-5u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyJ-00073f-3s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:18:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOyI-0007VK-NB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:18:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: phs Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21385 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.144102704928803 (code B ref -1); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2015 13:17:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxk-0007UV-ON for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxi-0007UN-T7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxf-0006px-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:26 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxf-0006pt-TJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxa-00045g-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxX-0006oF-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from olive.lsv.fr ([138.231.81.248]:43743 helo=olive.lsv.ens-cachan.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOxX-0006M0-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from phs-air.local (cas75-2-78-192-18-219.fbxo.proxad.net [78.192.18.219]) by olive.lsv.ens-cachan.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547C14C01A2 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:52:32 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106006 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070806050205010003080704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I needed help with finding the location of a spurious closing parenthesis and the manual was very helpful. Here I'm talking about sections 17.3.* of the Emacs Lisp Manual at http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/ However, I think these sections would be better/clearer if (at some place) they explicitly mentioned by name the command `backward-up-list' invoked via C-M-u rather than just give cryptic key sequences. Also, this could perhaps support a link to the appropriate section (curr. 26.4.2) of the Emacs manual for more details on the function. -phs --------------070806050205010003080704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I needed help with finding the location of a spurious closing parenthesis and the manual was very helpful.

Here I'm talking about sections 17.3.* of the Emacs Lisp Manual at http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/

However, I think these sections would be better/clearer if (at some place) they explicitly mentioned by name the command `backward-up-list' invoked via C-M-u rather than just give cryptic key sequences. Also, this could perhaps support a link to the appropriate section (curr. 26.4.2) of the Emacs manual for more details on the function.

-phs

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