From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:41 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55DCADFD.5050606@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> <55D1C9CE.2060407@yandex.ru> <55D20EDF.5070906@cs.ucla.edu> <55D223CA.4080109@yandex.ru> <55D22A1F.8040508@cs.ucla.edu> <55D22CF4.9030608@yandex.ru> <55D2747D.10809@cs.ucla.edu> <55D317A9.6000805@yandex.ru> <55D42210.9070703@cs.ucla.edu> <55D48503.3020406@yandex.ru> <55D50159.2030104@cs.ucla.edu> <55D5DC52.9020709@cs.ucla.edu> <55D7B881.9000201@yandex.ru> <55D7C014.7070808@cs.ucla.edu> <55D86ECE.2070504@yandex.ru> <55DB5583.8050400@cs.ucla.edu> <55DC153D.2090102@cs.ucla.edu> <55DC53C7.80205@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440525849 17871 80.91.229.3 (25 Aug 2015 18:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:04:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 25 20:04:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUIZk-0003kI-DN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:04:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33934 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUIZj-0003em-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUIZW-0003eh-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUIZT-0005Q9-Kk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:56648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUIZT-0005Q0-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ED3160F3A; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 62JBJkJ4tX6q; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730C4160F75; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 08SD2kn1HYVo; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55970160F23; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <55DC53C7.80205@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189171 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov wrote: > With that in mind, why can't format-message translate ` and ' to curlie= s? Then > we won't need the latter in the source code. Thanks, this sounds like a good suggestion. We couldn't do this earlier,= =20 because changing =E2=80=98format=E2=80=99 in this way would have too many= compatibility issues,=20 but now that we have split =E2=80=98format-message=E2=80=99 out, the basi= c idea should work and=20 should lessen the hassle of converting messages. It also should mean tha= t we=20 don't need %< or %> or even %q. I'll look into it. Although I'm with Stefan about the yuck factor with =E2=80=98format-messa= ge=E2=80=99, this does=20 seem to be the sort of thing that we could all sort of live with, i.e., o= ne of=20 the better of an unpleasant set of options....