From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:53:29 +0300 Message-ID: <55D39B49.8000807@yandex.ru> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <20150816225346.GA5367@acm.fritz.box> <55D2C080.2000806@cs.ucla.edu> <87wpwt5619.fsf@gnu.org> <55D36CB5.10803@cs.ucla.edu> <878u9879q9.fsf@igel.home> <19BD5D76-06A0-4FC0-A46F-760B2C27D321@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439931231 28053 80.91.229.3 (18 Aug 2015 20:53:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) To: Chad Brown , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 18 22:53:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnt6-0003bz-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:53:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59532 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnt6-0003kp-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnt1-0003ij-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnsy-0005Nn-D5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]:35941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnsy-0005Nj-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:32 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbpu9 with SMTP id pu9so111379673lbb.3 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jpofw3vs07HHlGxAF4NFeIqVnZHOJFxsm/4dwPuvQLg=; b=Ifbgh/tsAsQVc/umoSfs6g3BQKZ98Brd5zYqjCu7NNsrNgSlf1wMVFKYS+cNbVvfZx VQyI1iFe4jfVNf9gTKoylhefQYfjgXyqInxlertF/FTexgR2TzYo0GbfQbZS4fRlNnGX kxdqNbgeIE5n+CG8np0cOUS3Zd7mSz8WYA8GlmxDl3BhOlKWW3rhW1apGCjumxTeIm+S /WLJZQQL/hacfgyxyO4uk5XW9MmkHxfUJd0uP1bw8mAzZa6CpbHha/VULwOlVv9PPGXZ mNrFxRQjGF988wArKWaXEnKyWkaYLhNuMwQCUZOKIsS0d8DVK3ID8HeBh06ApmB3epR0 JURA== X-Received: by 10.112.164.4 with SMTP id ym4mr8293734lbb.7.1439931211196; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id si3sm5186696lbb.32.2015.08.18.13.53.30 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:53:30 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 In-Reply-To: <19BD5D76-06A0-4FC0-A46F-760B2C27D321@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188909 Archived-At: On 08/18/2015 09:32 PM, Chad Brown wrote: > because all of the programs I use that aren’t Emacs or some > of the terminal console interfaces automatically turn it into ‘…’. All programs? None of the popular programming text editors do that. You might be thinking of LibreOffice Writer. > With all this in mind, I’ve been watching these exploding > threads with a mixture of hope and dread, because the modernization > effort would be very nice for me, but I’m seeing a lot of older > people whose opinions and efforts I respect argue for "just use > old-style ascii quotes." Since you're writing prose, the discussion should be irrelevant to you. It's only about which quotes to use in the Emacs Lisp source files. For inserting proper punctuation marks automatically when writing prose, you should check out http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TypographicalPunctuationMarks