From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:55:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D29EA6.2020009@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150817173551.GB2634@acm.fritz.box>
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> What I object to is_non-working_ characters - characters which appear
> on nobody's keyboard (see Bastien's question about typing curly quotes)
> and are problematic to display (See Eli's recent post, for example).
So you object to having form-feeds in Elisp source code as well? After all,
form-feeds are "non-working" by your definition. :-)
As for the philosophical issue, I'm afraid we'll just have to disagree. In my
experience, hackers prefer to scratch the itches they feel personally.
Discouraging non-ASCII characters even in relatively innocuous contexts like doc
strings and diagnostics is connected to putting off the task of making it easier
to edit text with these characters.
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2015-08-16 21:44 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-16 22:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-16 23:16 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-18 3:40 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-18 5:20 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 8:56 ` Bastien
2015-08-18 17:34 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 18:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-18 18:32 ` Chad Brown
2015-08-18 19:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-18 20:17 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-24 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-25 11:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-25 22:11 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-25 22:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-26 18:51 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-26 22:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-08-26 22:39 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-26 22:53 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-08-27 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-27 3:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-08-27 4:43 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-08-27 4:49 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-08-27 16:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-27 16:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-27 3:10 ` Alexis
2015-08-27 4:48 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-08-27 4:52 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-08-27 4:49 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-27 5:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-08-27 7:33 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-27 8:47 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-27 8:56 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-08-27 16:28 ` [TRUNCATED MESSAGE 2408 171455] " Richard Stallman
2015-08-27 17:44 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-27 11:27 ` Alexis
2015-08-27 16:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-27 17:16 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 1:41 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-28 2:02 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 21:17 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-28 8:12 ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 8:32 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 8:38 ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 8:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-28 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 9:36 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-28 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 9:53 ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 10:12 ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 15:04 ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 16:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-29 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-29 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 2:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-30 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 15:49 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-31 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-31 17:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-28 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-18 20:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-18 21:43 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 1:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-19 18:14 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-20 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-21 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-21 12:43 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-21 12:52 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-22 17:30 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-21 13:58 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-08-21 14:39 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-19 1:22 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 3:52 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 18:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 18:52 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-20 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-21 0:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-21 1:35 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 20:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-19 1:24 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 4:52 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-17 3:44 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 11:09 ` Bastien Guerry
2015-08-17 16:39 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 16:57 ` Bastien
2015-08-17 17:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 17:47 ` Bastien
2015-08-17 11:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-17 16:41 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 11:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-17 16:42 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 18:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-17 18:38 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 18:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-17 23:25 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-08-17 23:55 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 11:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-19 6:28 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 13:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-19 22:21 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 22:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-20 13:55 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-21 23:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-22 0:19 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-22 12:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-24 17:33 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-25 7:11 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-25 11:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-25 18:03 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-26 1:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-26 2:51 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-20 16:56 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-20 19:32 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-22 16:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-22 18:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-22 21:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-22 22:43 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-22 23:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-22 23:45 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-23 8:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-23 9:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-23 10:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-23 10:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-24 5:47 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-23 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-23 8:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-24 0:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-24 1:10 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 20:22 ` Richard Stallman
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2015-08-24 22:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-25 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-26 6:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 12:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-17 14:40 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-17 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-17 19:06 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-17 16:53 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-17 17:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-18 2:55 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2015-08-18 10:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-18 16:45 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 17:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-18 19:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 20:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-18 21:40 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-18 22:44 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-08-18 23:11 ` Bastien
2015-08-18 23:41 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 0:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-08-19 0:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-08-19 18:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 18:40 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-20 13:37 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
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2015-08-21 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-21 15:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2015-08-19 6:58 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2015-08-19 16:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-08-20 23:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-19 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-19 16:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-08-22 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-23 0:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-08-24 0:05 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 18:16 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-21 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-22 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-19 18:14 ` Richard Stallman
2015-08-18 23:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-19 4:24 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-19 7:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-08-19 10:10 ` Nicolas Richard
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2015-08-19 21:53 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-20 7:20 ` Andreas Schwab
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2015-08-18 15:09 ` Yuri Khan
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2015-08-18 15:48 ` Yuri Khan
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2015-08-18 17:08 ` Yuri Khan
2015-08-18 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-19 4:45 ` Yuri Khan
2015-08-19 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-19 5:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2015-08-19 16:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-08-19 1:19 ` Richard Stallman
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2015-08-18 12:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
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