From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:25 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439783103 5906 80.91.229.3 (17 Aug 2015 03:45:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 03:45:03 +0000 (UTC) To: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 05:44:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRBLt-000407-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 05:44:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54074 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRBLs-0007El-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 23:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59585) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRBLf-0007Ef-NS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 23:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRBLc-0002NH-EB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 23:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:53059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRBLc-0002MO-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 23:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D836B160D20; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id nhkxJz72IdkE; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA503160D3D; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id V0YIUYO-DwLu; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA0E1160D20; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:44:28 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188828 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov wrote: > Doesn't (format "Expand `%s'? " string) use the "preferred quoting styl= e"? No, as that would break usages such as (format "\\`%s\\'" (car e)). This= sort=20 of thing is reasonably common, so it'd be a compatibility problem to chan= ge=20 =E2=80=98format=E2=80=99 to replace accent-grave. Alan Mackenzie wrote: > This user's preference is to be able to type quote marks in Emacs sourc= e > files directly without mincing workarounds, and to be able to search fo= r > them likewise. You can continue to type quote marks as before, and Emacs will behave as = it=20 always has. The only change here is if that if you want quotes in diagno= stics=20 to come out in the user's preferred style, a "mincing workaround" of some= sort=20 is needed. By the way, it's easy to search for quote marks in either style: just typ= e C-s `=20 or C-s '. And it's easy to type curved quote marks by using Electric Quo= te=20 mode. These are both new features. If you don't want to use these new=20 features, that's fine too.