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From: Eric Ludlam <eric@siege-engine.com>
To: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: running EDE from a file that is not under a project root dir
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 07:42:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C1F6A8.8030901@siege-engine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86egjick23.fsf@stephe-leake.org>

On 08/05/2015 02:43 AM, Stephen Leake wrote:
>> >I find the global project concept scary.  I can't say how many times
>> >I've edited Emacs code that was wasn't on my load path because I had
>> >multiple checkouts of the same code.  Mostly just too many times.
> You misunderstand my point. I don't want a project that includes all
> files on the disk (which is what I think you are refering to); I want a
> single project that is active in all buffers.
>
> Most other IDEs I've used have the notion of a single active project;
> the splash screen asks for the project to open.
>
> That's how Emacs Ada mode works; the user selects the single active
> project. They can later select another one.

I have used IDEs with "global" projects, and I consider Emacs an IDE 
with a single global project for "emacs lisp" code (among other things, 
of course. :) It has handy functions like 'find-function' and 
'find-library' that lets you move to definitions and files.

The reason I don't like global projects is that if you are in one 
resource (for Emacs any old .el, .txt, etc) and call `find-function', it 
will jump off to the code, but unless you pay attention, you might end 
up somewhere you don't expect.  For example, if I have two versions of 
my source code open, such as ede.el in Emacs vs ede.el in CEDET's 
repository, and I blindly jump from a symbol, I'll could end up in the 
wrong place based on what my load path is.

In my mind, all files should be deterministically bound to a project so 
when you perform an operation, you always know where you're going.  Some 
files are "in" projects.  In your case, a way to associate a notes file 
outside a project to a project sounds important.

Having a 'global' project could be useful if you only ever edit one 
project at a time in a given emacs instance, and you want everything to 
behave as if it were.  I don't picture most Emacs users operating like 
that.  If it is feature to be added, it should be optional.

Eric




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-05 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04 18:13 running EDE from a file that is not under a project root dir Stephen Leake
2015-08-04 23:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-05  7:48   ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05  9:30     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06  8:01       ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06 10:34         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-06 14:39           ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06 21:45             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-07 14:15               ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05  1:57 ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-05  6:43   ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05  7:20     ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05 15:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-05 11:42     ` Eric Ludlam [this message]
2015-08-06  8:37       ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-06 10:55         ` David Engster
2015-08-06 14:55           ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-07 10:48             ` David Engster
2015-08-07 14:28               ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-07 14:53                 ` David Engster
2015-08-10 10:09             ` Steinar Bang
2015-08-06 11:44         ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-06 15:03           ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-05 11:51     ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-06  8:58       ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-08 15:26         ` Stephen Leake
2015-08-08 21:07           ` Eric Ludlam
2015-08-05  9:54   ` Dmitry Gutov

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