From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Glenn Morris'" <rgm@gnu.org>, "'Lawrence Mitchell'" <wence@gmx.li>
Cc: 10868@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10868: 24.0.93; `comment-style' needs to be explained
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:34:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55AE7A9B21944336BD8E9A0B097C62CB@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ge4nuh1nde.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
> > The docstring of comment-style refers the user to comment-styles for
> > details on what the values mean. However, this is not available
> > until after newcomment.el is loaded. So autoload comment-styles
> > to avoid this problem.
>
> Then this is an instance of a general problem. See eg
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1768
> for the same thing.
>
> IMO there should be a general solution rather than papering over every
> instance that occurs with more pre/autoloading.
Maybe, maybe not.
No one has suggested "papering over *every instance* that occurs with more
pre/autoloading". Quite the contrary. Stefan gave some specific guidelines
(reasons) why preloading makes sense in this _particular_ case.
But if what you say is true and is agreed upon, we can discuss the general
problem & solution separately - in emacs-devel, for example.
Wrt _this_ bug report: let us not let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
Let's not wait for some expected or hoped-for general solution before fixing
this particular bug.
It's hard enough to get approval that a particular option's doc string be
preloaded. Let's not throw abstract obstacles in the path, once that need has
been recognized in a particular case.
> PS Someone might want to rename this report to reflect the real issue.
Please, no. Please do not try to detour this bug fix.
Instead, file a separate bug report for the general case that you suppose. Or
better yet, bring up the question for discussion at emacs-devel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-23 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-22 17:17 bug#10868: 24.0.93; `comment-style' needs to be explained Drew Adams
2012-02-22 17:38 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22 18:11 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 19:01 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-23 9:22 ` Lawrence Mitchell
2012-02-23 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 15:35 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-23 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 16:13 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-25 3:08 ` Chong Yidong
2012-02-23 17:16 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-23 17:22 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-23 17:24 ` Lawrence Mitchell
2012-02-23 17:34 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-02-23 21:48 ` Finding a variable before it's loaded Stefan Monnier
2012-02-23 22:29 ` Lennart Borgman
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