From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Coordinates and Windows Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:36:08 +0200 Message-ID: <55A904C8.2070106@gmx.at> References: <55A60508.7090903@gmx.at> <83oajd79kz.fsf@gnu.org> <55A6A4A1.1030307@gmx.at> <83fv4p6wqp.fsf@gnu.org> <55A759D1.5090001@gmx.at> <83bnfc6um1.fsf@gnu.org> <55A7F68A.3040003@gmx.at> <83y4if53s8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437140201 14038 80.91.229.3 (17 Jul 2015 13:36:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 17 15:36:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZG5oU-0007af-5O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:36:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZG5oT-0006Gn-KR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZG5oL-0006GZ-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:36:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZG5oH-00072V-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:62776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZG5oH-00070x-5v; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [178.191.142.80] ([178.191.142.80]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LuP19-1YrJAO1JAt-011hVv; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:36:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y4if53s8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DZ/W3pYsweoF5sMvTwjRdzAwzjaHgxfuGZI704aZgdY6UScjF7c JbW/ZdFrGe2fiHDSYj8uRJ96BSGhVF6Jb8mcdvJUtVpFJzTMJRy0JBSMDrSsh/4bkLE+jTa /SGki10AIQPiRVMc+l1DnKpOmGfZJ5w5/HLijJ897WF19l76gfwS0nIrE3xRtyM/W5c0rlO 7sbSoZmAJ/TEt0vKW/ooQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:iD3vehOsMWs=:bAgfGquWTTjtgXlzzWQLV+ zdjKMaml5jKjuHXUCgXKDNpI/Vk+6xjbEO/gXc4n+kyuZt2uWm4usLnW3nf0WA0DlnWKG1G6l rf6j7hzAaJU3SOMTBQdfKIjUjkeyChAfXMpx1k2FyPnzfeXnUr10uqwvee/yjjyMNSsFpo2+r MLQZoPKOjNCMdtzEz4x4B1mlb5blv3gB3UtmnIkUzdGVOH6pwNLbcvJ6rjRkmAZm+QnBvZdVe pC/fyuQ0S29Aq8niEDx1myOX7RXwEuBfgJwZVJAT26hrfEJgLweQamxmaJ73WutM/U6i5RpOk OWkyUtjm5q2hgBaHbgkAbe8mY7hA+hMwcuP9kA9tVfPI+voYqC/2wBe3LdfTw6NkmEFDHf5WI v+W3gbcAq9CdzUNYqiR1pdcSQVyzIwJLDR28y1abG+iNsFWbQ1Zuc6LUu8dptN/p6XQ8XREC0 NRhOGgg2cMR191kS8aC6MDGGpOirwSU+EMNkh5dwNdvM3E+uJwY2Yd1eH263SduYgtYYE48UM MKQBUGtKIq2AESTQ/KPV5mbi54GPl2aXiNyz1IQu27a8eLX01UjR4QeetGKQPOymLrkvWCIKH PDI8JXf4lfhSpf2mxy5XqT/xmo09v2ePXAa+uWMOKHYkuacvGv7nsEKvpl0nfSKWm6aUAAIgx LcONITcTzhJNDMG3xo/fAFFhaCn9FGX0IgYh65UTakejIvszuWAVGavTzKVYMfekPCyo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187925 Archived-At: >> I agree. Just that it's not all too trivial to calculate it. > > In pixels or in rows? In pixels. >> Just 32 pixels for title, menu, and tool bar? > > Maybe I'm confused, but doesn't that include only the title and menu > on Windows? Or maybe just the title? This would imply that the tool bar (and maybe even the menu bar) are part of the root window. But don't worry. On GTK we don't count the title bar either. The only platform where this might work is NS ;-) >> BTW, has Windows 7 an 8 pixel wide border by default? > > How can I know? What does M-: (x-frame-geometry) give for you? > Isn't that what development is about -- breaking features and then > fixing the breakage? From your lips to God's ears. martin