From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20183: 24.4.91; No resize handle to adjust width of Emacs windows Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:22:15 +0200 Message-ID: <55953B07.7010409@gmx.at> References: <87d23zwmo0.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <75554998-f4de-4a52-bbd1-310b648c0a32@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435843407 24589 80.91.229.3 (2 Jul 2015 13:23:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:23:27 +0000 (UTC) To: Drew Adams , nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 20183@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 02 15:23:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAeSP-000649-23 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Then people will complain that valuable display space gets wasted. > Another problem is discovery of these frame parameters (there are no > user options for these things, other than the `*-frame-alist' options). I now implemented a minor mode called `window-divider-mode' and added a menu entry to make window dividers more discoverable. > And even if they were made aware of these frame parameters, my guess > is that many users would not know how to customize Emacs to set them. You're probably right. martin