From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:44:33 +0300 Message-ID: <5592F1A1.2030300@yandex.ru> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> <558DD6EA.4090306@yandex.ru> <558F497A.8050304@yandex.ru> <55926A9E.40901@yandex.ru> <5592A3D7.9060608@yandex.ru> <5592BBA3.9080701@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435693494 4426 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2015 19:44:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 30 21:44:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZA1Sd-000305-0O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:44:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZA1SX-0000J7-FX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47735) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZA1ST-0000J0-Do for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:44:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZA1SQ-000246-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]:33770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZA1SQ-000242-EB; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:44:38 -0400 Original-Received: by wiwl6 with SMTP id l6so143150204wiw.0; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EUeOhMfkat9Ru+T9Xo/QDfzEaMXHjMiQA+E2ICUu+m8=; b=nQiedPnyvKccyuVGz113IUEFGpkrq/ZAnqh1589VCOY9QhEsjFqnwVvNA4Z9YELUPx f8FJ1N14a7PhPzKZuMRm/uaut0ZAlkDz1PhdMTcPYe/tbe6/3Rhpk5tBs6vvarjzOwZ1 9m8znUwOsKMD4sQsAN6cWhAI4d8XlqiVX0dB99MtrK5PhPxlRjmffiVo8vB8ER9kyzXh llsp5qP9D/wLhV6MaQB+xAGux0G1FX9NwKeI9J9eqq+DSDEStM0aEOdq/qnq0H9nNPGQ UfXlJQqSNr6CtkJ9YBB67Fr/UMjnC3a3BwnaBZde8+5Q5jOqZGJliEWpnnjHHUFwy8Z5 wm2w== X-Received: by 10.180.82.162 with SMTP id j2mr37833480wiy.54.1435693477414; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m10sm18429512wib.17.2015.06.30.12.44.35 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187691 Archived-At: On 06/30/2015 08:54 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Shorter is good, but to me the main problem is that I can never remember > this \= escaping (tho maybe after this longish discussion, I'll finally > remember it). So if even I can't remember it, I can't expect other > people to remember it and even less to use it. I never knew about it until now, and now I'll probably remember it for a while, personally.