From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:12:39 +0300 Message-ID: <5592A3D7.9060608@yandex.ru> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> <558DD6EA.4090306@yandex.ru> <558F497A.8050304@yandex.ru> <55926A9E.40901@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435673578 26555 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2015 14:12:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, Paul Eggert , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 30 16:12:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9wHL-0007K8-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:12:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47229 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9wHK-0003CN-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9wHG-0003CG-2f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9wHC-0000sM-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:12:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]:36567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9wHC-0000s4-Mb; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: by widjy10 with SMTP id jy10so31649022wid.1; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:12:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QvjPzu5WX35QL99fc16p4rFNtKh+x/n9lfc1GEaPdBg=; b=MxZVfajiyxGKtKa0JUtW9W/Z8gNpCJUKXCmWTMiUzJ5HjQIxtJl29OOE+K3uyAP8vc 7lsp0d8uIhcdTptWXDXyNP6PlFIuTWvxX0mvBDJre2p3hCOZZI42+V9raSZeqqfK6GJN /W/MWZl6m/nAW42VO/P8qGWy+CwjQU9T0N43RzzkEnpPRuRkBwPiYqgo2B8fQxY1ln1B 0OL2Uu/GTriiWc/rFl6rrIxOg8jGCWTAG99y4wLe4BckpIK4eIkUDc1pd4+M79r+u90U 5YzSik1VQsg0wSiUCxH/RmzFIhZNoCrycGuMULral+rMVTG5CNV22KHsnBF4p8ezC4n/ 37Qw== X-Received: by 10.181.6.37 with SMTP id cr5mr32679305wid.18.1435673562114; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.185] ([212.50.99.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm66117876wjf.18.2015.06.30.07.12.40 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:12:41 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187672 Archived-At: On 06/30/2015 04:50 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Why can't we use just \ instead of \= ? We can (and that's what my first proposal did), but it'll require changing a certain amount of existing docstrings, and some of them will look less nice as a result. Such as substitute-command-keys one, where we'll have to escape all those backslashes. Adding a yet-another quoting method is not ideal either. However, if we change \= to \ as the quoting method in substitute-command-keys as well, that will be less of a problem. Backward compatibility might be, but I've seen no evidence thus far, of \= being used anywhere outside of Emacs core. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-06/msg00646.html