From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:17:02 +0300 Message-ID: <5590482E.6060604@yandex.ru> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <55826FFA.2040907@yandex.ru> <5583FEA0.4050600@yandex.ru> <558448A3.9040501@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435519064 28117 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2015 19:17:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, Paul Eggert , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 28 21:17:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9I5C-0003RO-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:17:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9I5B-000522-6K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:17:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9I4v-00051o-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9I4s-0000SL-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:38385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9I4s-0000RP-9D; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: by wibdq8 with SMTP id dq8so55092522wib.1; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:17:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6jx7BOKSthGx3J+nd3cv/v4Qi89Gxb/k0XaYrsBaXeg=; b=dyu4rGypCmIMJENk8NbajQSc3wTCtxftVDfG0tqBjNEoUc/VmWgXhqcJPdrEDGbh8B eyfdT9ngaR4TCM+oYsRRCDf84SBbaa9D5h+p5N7G8oPK7Bz7Ko35Mg8oX2Mn9asL4EMk +UpgnqkACDsaYWLMvnSPK3HB7XwBmf5mX+2Qc8H5CZbuQD+TnnwtqAZrxtEz9g6zA9Sk JSSmjJb1oqrDiBcdNjppi0C2mrHSayN/xIJQqrqrAUUBx/VyMcfzNleaE5XzAxzp71Qj E646nn8aiS/UvJmMeJ96H+fP0x1BN2pGNdLPlj44Cz/3bJHopui6PGVBOONUNjc1/XRY AQEQ== X-Received: by 10.194.88.69 with SMTP id be5mr22306146wjb.149.1435519027769; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fi6sm8590207wib.6.2015.06.28.12.17.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:17:07 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187620 Archived-At: On 06/19/2015 11:01 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> That aside, hardcoding the usage of a specific property might not be ideal, >> because then the buffer using the output can't change the presentation >> too easily. > > I was thinking of an ad-hoc property rather than a predefined one. That seems non-ideal because the regexp engine has no way to check the text property on a quote character. Thus, we can't make a regexp that will match asd'asd in `asd\\'asd', if the escaped is handled in substitute-command-keys. Although admittedly, this could be handled programmatically.