From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:31 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55901443.5070605@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435505753 28625 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2015 15:35:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 28 17:35:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9EcR-0001dl-P8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:35:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9EcR-00035o-72 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:35:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9EcN-00035f-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9EcI-0001CD-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:44211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z9EcH-0001C2-PX; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:35:33 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CBB16026C; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 8PpC0Lvx-FTz; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315B9160821; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Cppx3uYi1OHT; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07D4B16026C; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187616 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > I think we can, if we decide not to use them in doc strings around lists. > That way, `( will always be a backquote. > ` will never occur before a symbol character > except when it is part of `...'. Unfortunately that's not true for the current Emacs docstrings. For example, the docstring for verilog-auto-declare-nettype contains this: Note using `default_nettype none isn't recommended practice; Here the grave accent is part of Verilog syntax, and should not be displayed as a curved quote. Of course this sort of thing is unusual, but the point is that exceptional cases like this do occur and we need an escape syntax to handle them.