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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master c4151eb: Improve the optional translation of quotes
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:09:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55882522.3030305@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5587B029.5000503@cs.ucla.edu>

On 06/22/2015 09:50 AM, Paul Eggert wrote:

> It's not "making things worse" to
> rely on a property that's been in Emacs for ages.

All right, I guess that's true.

> Yes, I've been reading and participating in these subthreads.  I don't
> follow your point here, though.  Normally, curved quotes pass through
> substitute-command-keys unchanged.

I don't see what's "normally" have to do with anything.

In the input, we don't need quotes that usually pass unchanged to the 
output. We need some output-independent markup that will eventually 
translate into whatever presentation we choose. The more we're able to 
defer that choice, the better. It's why I'm liking the original 
suggestion to do it via font-lock better and better now.

> This is simple and intuitive and is
> what Emacs has always normally done.  Perhaps we'll come up with a
> better way to highlight the output of substitute-command-keys at some
> point, a way that treats quotes and key substitutions differently.  That
> might be nice, but it's not clear how it would work exactly, and in the
> meantime we have a simple approach that does work.

Please recall the suggestion to do everything via font-lock. It would 
also allow us to use some different quoting mechanism other than \\=, 
which Stefan complained about.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-22 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150619073901.5856.32718@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1Z5qtC-0001Xe-1y@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-06-21 19:09   ` [Emacs-diffs] master c4151eb: Improve the optional translation of quotes Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-21 19:56     ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-21 19:57       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-21 20:03         ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-21 20:29           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-21 20:46             ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-21 23:52               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-22  6:50                 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-22 15:09                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-06-23  5:36                     ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-23 10:55                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-24  5:24                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-25 12:52                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-25 14:05                             ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-25 14:56                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-31 18:51                                 ` Paul Eggert
2015-07-31 19:24                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-01  1:16                                     ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-01  1:28                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-25 14:59                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-25 15:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-25 15:33                                   ` Dmitry Gutov

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