From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master c4151eb: Improve the optional translation of quotes Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:56 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <558722C0.5040702@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150619073901.5856.32718@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55870BD2.6040706@yandex.ru> <558716E9.30903@cs.ucla.edu> <55871721.5060709@yandex.ru> <55871883.7080600@cs.ucla.edu> <55871E96.2020506@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434919647 29961 80.91.229.3 (21 Jun 2015 20:47:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:47:27 +0000 (UTC) To: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 21 22:47:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6m96-0004Ts-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:47:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37263 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6m95-0005YB-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42757) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6m8t-0005X9-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:47:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6m8o-0004hD-Rk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:33387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6m8o-0004h9-LX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4E5160821; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id YRGWnJwi67cH; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3428D160835; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ubA1WOtTwRN5; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D733160821; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:46:57 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <55871E96.2020506@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187356 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov wrote: > It's not hard to imagine `substitute-command-keys' being called on its result again True, but that's always been a bug, even before the recent changes. substitute-command-keys has never been idempotent. > I'd rather keep them [curved quotes] in the destination strings, if at all. If I understand you correctly, curved quotes will normally be kept in destination strings so it should be OK. The only exceptions will be if users customize help-quote-translation to say that they prefer straight quotes, or if they run in an obsolescent environment that can't display curved quotes. Neither case should be common.