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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:19:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55819E10.4040102@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh9q6e761.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org>


Am 17.06.2015 um 16:42 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>> Without lexical binding, to try to get some independence from other
>> functions, you would have to PREFIX ALL THE LOCAL VARIABLES WITH
>> FUNCTION SPECIFIC PREFIXES!
> Actually, not really.  The Elisp convention to only use prefixes for
> global variables is 99% sufficient.  In your example, the problem is
> that `some-function' modifies the (presumably global) variable
> `scratch-buffer' and that this variable does not have an
> appropriate prefix.
>
> The only case where non-prefixed local variables cause problem is when
> you introduce higher-order functions, as in:
>
>     (defun my-map (f l)
>       (if l (cons (funcall f (car l)) (my-map f (cdr l)))))
>
>     (defun my-function (input)
>       (let ((l ...))
>         (my-map (lambda (x) (unless (memq x l) (error "invalid mapping")))
>                 input)))
>
> Suddenly the `l' used inside the lambda will not refer to the `l' nearby
> but to the `l' argument of `my-map'.  For this reason, some higher-order
> functions used to use weird argument names to try and avoid such
> name capture.  Nowadays they can use lexical scoping and hence choose
> their variable names sanely and without fear.
>
>

Checked this with

;;; -*- lexical-binding: t; -*-

(defun my-map (f l)
   (if l (cons (funcall f (car l)) (my-map f (cdr l)))))

(defun my-function (input)
   (let ((l ()))
     (my-map (lambda (x) (unless (memq x l) (error "invalid mapping")))
         input)))

(my-function '(4 5))

Got identic results also without lexical-binding seen here. l is taken 
from inside lambda in both modes.






  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-17 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29  8:28 Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-30  8:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-14 10:52   ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.4976.1434279182.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 11:31     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-16 23:48       ` Jim Diamond
2015-06-17  0:06         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17  6:23           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5136.1434522217.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 10:49             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 10:53               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 14:42                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 16:19                   ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2015-06-17 19:30                     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5171.1434557990.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 17:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 20:22                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:13                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 23:46                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-18 14:57                     ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-18 15:47                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 13:49                         ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-19 17:41                           ` acronymania (was: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp) Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 17:53                             ` Rusi
2015-06-17 20:33             ` Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:07               ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-17 22:17                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17  0:43         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 16:02         ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5167.1434556959.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-23 23:49           ` Jim Diamond
     [not found] ` <mailman.3950.1432974543.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-30 12:59   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 10:55     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4977.1434279342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 20:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-14 21:44         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 21:49           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found] <mailman.3883.1432888152.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-29  9:30 ` Joost Kremers
2015-05-29 11:12   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 12:13     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 16:21     ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-29 16:50       ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-29 12:28 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-29 17:16   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 18:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30  5:49 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 12:50   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 15:23     ` Rusi
2015-05-30 15:50       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 16:21         ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:03   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30 16:32     ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:54       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 17:10         ` Rusi
2015-05-30 19:12           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon

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