From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:30 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434506277 6043 80.91.229.3 (17 Jun 2015 01:57:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 17 03:57:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z52bq-0007Lt-2p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 03:57:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z52bp-0008H2-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:57:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40774) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z52Yo-0003oS-RD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:54:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z52Yj-0008RX-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:48803) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z52Yj-0008Qp-GO; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:54:33 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC8016070F; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id S_QLcXf0MCyT; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B2C160816; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id p3QOgIIyoQpX; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A66E16070F; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187229 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > It is good to _permit_ putting non-ASCII > characters in strings and comments, as we do; but Lisp code (including > its normal conventions) shouldn't require use of such characters. This shouldn't be a problem. The approach in Emacs master does not require the use of non-ASCII characters in source-code docstrings or diagnostics, and further changes along these lines should still support ASCII-only strings and comments containing quoted symbols that continue to work as before.