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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 72570@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#72570: 31.0.50; Regression in date-to-time
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 12:39:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55718663-6c04-4f97-b3cb-122c924895c2@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uh6bp6k6l@gentoo.org>

On 2024-08-12 22:55, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

> don't we have a chicken-and-egg problem? We'd need the UTC timestamp
> to infer the timezone, but the timezone to calculate the timestamp?

You're quite right that we have a chicken and egg problem, and that no 
solution will be perfect here. My point was that using a heuristic would 
be better than nothing, if the goal is to infer timezone from incomplete 
input. That's why timezone-fix-time uses this heuristic.

I continue to think that your idea of changing date-to-time to default 
to the local time zone is the best way to move forward. How about this 
idea for doing it?

* Change the doc to say this. This is a simple change, and it reflects 
existing behavior better.

* Change date-to-time so that if it falls back on 
timezone-make-date-arpa standard, it insists that the string denotes a 
time zone; if the string lacks a time zone it errors out with "Invalid 
date", which it already does with invalid dates.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-11  8:57 bug#72570: 31.0.50; Regression in date-to-time Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12  7:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12  8:18   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:51   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 13:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 13:48       ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 14:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 22:03   ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-13  5:55     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 19:39       ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2024-08-13 21:11         ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 21:19           ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-14  8:12             ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-14 14:09             ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  3:27               ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-15  4:35                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  6:26                   ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-15  6:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15  7:18                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  7:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 11:15     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 15:09       ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 15:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 19:59       ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-14  8:37         ` Eli Zaretskii

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