From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20538: 24.4; Attempt to delete a surrogate minibuffer frame Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:46 +0200 Message-ID: <5554755A.3060609@gmx.at> References: <874mnly25v.fsf@gnu.org> <554F4F64.20604@gmx.at> <46510.69799.372989.21839@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <55507FA7.7020906@gmx.at> <57556.25510.62959.21840@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <5551C998.4040508@gmx.at> <22444.26522.862962.21842@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <5552FDFB.8080500@gmx.at> <27022.80056.898164.21843@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431598467 30452 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2015 10:14:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20538@debbugs.gnu.org To: Roland Winkler Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 12:14:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9e-0003lZ-N9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:14:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9d-00029l-M2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42993) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9V-00021i-MM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9T-0003RG-0z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9S-0003RB-Ui for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9S-0003DZ-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20538 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20538-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20538.143159844112355 (code B ref 20538); Thu, 14 May 2015 10:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20538) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 10:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44451 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9R-0003DC-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:57061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9O-0003Cu-VB for 20538@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [178.190.18.121] ([178.190.18.121]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6zvN-1Z5GEf44KD-00wkic; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <27022.80056.898164.21843@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:P5d1tv6ix33UJT7sqlVTbsqTRBUllwvJ6+HTzbyhCYUE9hQRSYp J4S/380W7NZq/mfcZHENvH2baVBgJOvLqgiRnbf8gHakjrd22OZPLI0prx3/sQFYDh4YNy3 FrKwNPbXa1YidlHtKd4G0/KRpMyEGljPdpMPrqVwPUNLtAf4co3sNzxB3UUj+dzHkYOS4kE ke97FIUuW7EjWMeHVgBBQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102767 Archived-At: > Then your previous email telling me only about the function > ediff-setup-windows-plain gives an ignorant user like myself already > all the info he needs. Well, in my first mail in this thread I wrote >> I use >> >> (custom-set-variables >> '(ediff-window-setup-function (quote ediff-setup-windows-plain))) >> >> which avoids that the control panel appears on a separate frame. Hence I thought you would be already aware of the real nature of `ediff-setup-windows-plain' ;-) >> > Perhaps the error message could be changed to something like >> > >> > "Attempt to delete frame with a surrogate minibuffer for frame XYZ" > > Is the problem with the above that frames do not have > selfexplanatory unique names? Oh well, too bad. We could use (frame-parameter frame 'name) but it's not unique. >> Maybe we should say in the documentation of `delete-frame' something >> like >> >> A frame may not be deleted if its minibuffer serves as surrogate >> minibuffer for another frame. > > Yes, thanks, that would be better than the current phrase. If the > buzzword "surrogate" appears also in the corresponding section of > the elisp manual, I might have never started this thread. OK. Unless someone has a better idea I'll rewrite it that way. martin