From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Temporary notes in Emacs buffers? Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 09:54:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <555268d5-76f7-4ed8-90ef-9878551320e7@default> References: <87zhfecbpt.fsf@mbork.pl> <87mub2d3x6.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="139299"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 18:55:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ioA7Q-000a5s-1f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 18:55:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ioA7O-0000qc-Ah for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 12:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ioA7C-0000p9-9I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 12:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ioA7A-000854-9O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 12:55:01 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:36906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ioA7A-00084C-0I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 12:55:00 -0500 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 005HsbpE137312; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:54:57 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=bpUl+2MbYf3TlhqNRpAAP0orkfLtVkat/5tT192w/bQ=; b=D1oS4fA5oIouH7B7+Tpz/0kYUqSTDZYrT7UcA71Rxhz2DP1tySwdDE9xG6t7UxvriESR /6jdg3wPypogPOAyj7isxuE/WkwH1OfQbJxDxS46mrEC44R6FASoJt6K3wkOGhVL8hnD mAgN4V1kF7d7L8566z2CIN8o3QuFQkhbS5FQSSeOp17O4xL0cjVxUyIfuQakiT5RIoQg wpL7yceA4nQC+DPgSRjU3J6LFwXSstUTiMYj3IcVelCxm8KPtuIe2u04F6SdJl9a8+5y dRqExadEVVptLrgyu9Zu7z4vxsODDvYTX8D711AgAKqH96Yoi+HBmxRkRfQtitjQpvSN lA== Original-Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xajnpkj3j-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 05 Jan 2020 17:54:56 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 005Hr6wG025328; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:54:56 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xb477srbx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 05 Jan 2020 17:54:56 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 005HsiEk008129; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 17:54:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <87mub2d3x6.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4939.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9491 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001050164 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9491 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001050164 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.78 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:122157 Archived-At: > > Vanilla Emacs bookmarks provide the ability to annotate. > > Bookmark+ enhances annotating (e.g. to use Org and > > indirection), but the annotation provided by vanilla > > Emacs bookmarking does what you requested. (Note: That statement is only about annotating. Your response is about automatic relocation and highlighting.) > Do Vanilla bookmarks really recognize automatically > when a bookmarked position has changed because the > user has inserted some preceding text? I mean, I > know bookmarks save surrounding text to work around that > problem but that works only by luck most of the time. Yes. I don't think it works only by luck most of the time. I think it works well most of the time. Of course, if there are large edits before the next time you jump to a bookmark, then, yes, it might not be possible to relocate it automatically (in which case you're prompted to relocate it manually). But edits between jumps to a bookmark are, I think, typically not so large as to prevent automatic relocating. Also, the automatic relocation of Bookmark+ is better than that of vanilla Emacs. > Same question for highlighting bookmarked positions: > I thought such features were only added by "bookmark+"? Correct. That is added by Bookmark+. It's not available with vanilla bookmark handling. If you use Bookmark+ then the highlighting is available also for bookmarks created with vanilla Emacs. But the highlighting is not available without Bookmark+.