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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: UI inconveniences with M-.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:06:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55410F7F.8080509@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h9ryub9v.fsf@gnu.org>

On 04/29/2015 07:53 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I never said that.  What I did say is that the problems exposed by the
> UI need to be fixed, no matter where.

I full-heartedly agree that we should fix problems.

Let me quote you here:

"But that's largely immaterial: this bug report is not about the
back-end, it's about the UI."

"We keep discussing the back-ends because you and Dmitry
consistently shift the discussion in that direction, so I feel
compelled to respond.  But my perspective in filing the bug report was
the perspective of a user looking at the results through the UI"

So you seem to use the term "UI" to refer to the whole user experience 
(as opposed to the UI part of xref, which does not include the 
backends). This might be easier for you, but it leads to confusion, 
because the rest of us are trying to discuss it at a more detailed level.

> Thank you for your kind words.

No offence intended.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-29 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 250+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-29 20:26 bug#19468: 25.0.50; UI inconveniences with M- Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30  6:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30  8:19   ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 16:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 17:02       ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 17:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 19:56       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 19:38     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 22:58       ` Helmut Eller
2015-01-03 21:37         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-04  8:55           ` martin rudalics
2015-01-04 22:51             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-05  7:08               ` martin rudalics
2015-01-06 10:39                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 14:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27  4:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 15:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 17:35                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 21:54                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 22:45                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 14:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 14:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 21:00                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:22                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 17:58                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29  2:41                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29  6:10                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 13:23                                     ` conflicting uses of next-error-function (was: UI inconveniences with M-.) Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 16:58                                       ` conflicting uses of next-error-function Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 17:40                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 18:15                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 23:14                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  6:19                                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-30  8:04                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30 17:46                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 23:20                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03  6:54                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-03 11:45                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03 13:25                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-03 14:12                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 22:21                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-05  2:28                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  9:47                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-05 14:05                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 14:26                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-29 23:05                                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 23:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 23:52                                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 23:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  6:35                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 15:26                                     ` UI inconveniences with M- Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-30  0:44                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  0:55                                         ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 17:08                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 15:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 16:17                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 16:25                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 16:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:06                                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-04-29 17:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:26                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 17:59                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 18:10                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 21:54                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-30 13:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 14:21                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01 18:32                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 21:04                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01 21:13                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  7:00                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-02  7:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  8:35                                           ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
2015-05-01 21:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  8:12                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  8:46                                             ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
2015-05-02 12:41                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 12:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 13:31                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 13:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 17:44                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  8:26                                   ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
2015-04-27 22:36                             ` bug#19468: 25.0.50; " Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 23:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 23:25                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28  1:26                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28  1:37                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 13:30                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 21:04                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29  3:13                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29  3:25                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29  4:15                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 22:44                           ` bug#19468: 25.0.50; " Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 23:19                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28  0:24                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28  1:34                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 15:01                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 18:47                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 14:59                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 14:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 21:33                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 22:56                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30 13:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01  2:27                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-01  6:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 11:27                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-01 12:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 14:51                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-01 18:38                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 18:44                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-01 19:22                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 20:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  6:59                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-02  7:59                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02  8:39                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  9:09                                                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02  9:24                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  9:50                                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 18:29                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 13:13                                                           ` xref "find references" and grouping Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 14:14                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 19:01                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03  7:47                                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-04  1:35                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-04  2:09                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 13:10                                                                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 14:21                                                                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 21:29                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  0:02                                                                         ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05  0:18                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  1:45                                                                             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-02 19:10                                                           ` UI inconveniences with M- Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 13:41                                                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 21:34                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  0:13                                                               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05  0:14                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  1:36                                                                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05 15:06                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  7:39                                                         ` bug#19468: 25.0.50; " Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 18:13                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 22:09                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 14:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 21:59                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 22:32                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 15:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 17:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 19:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 21:42                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 22:32                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 14:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 22:04                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:47                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 22:25                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 22:54                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 23:15                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28  1:25                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28  2:15                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 13:36                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29  0:24                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 15:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 22:07                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:47                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 14:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 22:08                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28  0:01                               ` Drew Adams
2015-04-28 14:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29  3:12                                 ` Etags.el (was: UI inconveniences with M-.) Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 15:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 22:14                                     ` Etags.el Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 15:00                               ` bug#19468: 25.0.50; UI inconveniences with M- Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 15:25                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 16:01                                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 22:02                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 16:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 14:52                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 22:28                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:43                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 18:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  0:08                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  6:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 10:23                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 11:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 12:07                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 12:46                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  7:10                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 10:11                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 11:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 11:45                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 12:16                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 12:49                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 13:04                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03 14:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 12:01                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 12:45                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 13:42                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 14:13                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 17:41                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 18:45                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 19:17                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 19:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 20:06                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 13:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 17:35                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 14:48                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-27 22:15                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 14:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 22:15                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:42                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 22:02                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 23:47                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 15:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 23:24                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 23:03                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30 13:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 15:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 20:26     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-04 23:52     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-05 19:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 17:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-30 17:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 17:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 17:49       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 18:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 17:25     ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 18:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-30 17:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 17:50       ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 17:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:08           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 17:53       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 18:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:01           ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 18:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:20               ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 18:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:33                   ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 18:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:53                       ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-30 19:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:33                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-21 23:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 17:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 21:15     ` Dmitry Gutov

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