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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.com>
Cc: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bad moves with xref-find-definitions
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 04:23:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <553EE101.4040706@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9Zgm0P27oTkNtpVDfvHdGW8+2+HkAPxv7vWZqbub0jVcMxMg@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/27/2015 10:36 PM, Bozhidar Batsov wrote:

> This was not my doing. I suggested C-x 4, but there was strong
> opposition for it.

https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/issues/1014? Maybe people just 
missed the suggestion. And note how in 
https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/pull/1044 someone wonders why it 
works in a different way.

Anyway, at this point you can add support for xref, and gradually 
deprecate the alternative bindings.

> Sure, that's clearly a possibility. I just didn't want to go overboard
> with this. Such a config has pretty much the same complexity as adding a
> second set of commands that simply do the different thing.

I think it's a bit easier than asking a user to change a set of key 
bindings. Should take less code to implement, too.

Having separate bindings for "always prompt" might be a good idea 
anyway, though. Like F12 vs Ctrl-P in Sublime or Ctrl-Click vs Ctrl-N, 
etc, in IDEA.

IDEA also uses a different interface for multiple choices in the 
Ctrl-Click case.

> OK, but this contradicts with the behavior of Emacs's own
> `find-function`, `find-variable`, etc.

It does, but find-func is kind of auxiliary package. None of these 
commands have default bindings.

> Life has told me that's it's pretty hard to please everyone. :-)

We probably have different standards for user satisfaction. "Everyone is 
equally annoyed" is often quite enough for me. :)



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-28  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-23 15:07 Bad moves with xref-find-definitions Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 16:25   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 17:42   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 18:49     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 19:07       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 18:56     ` João Távora
2015-04-25 23:50       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 11:51         ` xref backends for elisp-related modes Was: " João Távora
2015-04-26 13:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 14:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 11:06             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 11:41               ` João Távora
2015-04-28 11:59                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 15:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:45                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 16:01                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 13:27                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 21:28                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 12:35                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 15:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:47                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 16:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29  6:55               ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 12:40                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 13:01                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 15:30                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 17:09                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 12:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 13:04                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 13:12                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27  2:20           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 19:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 20:43       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26  3:37         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  6:38           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-04-26 18:41             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 19:36               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-04-28  1:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-04-28 11:30               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 10:44           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 13:14             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 15:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 16:23               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 17:51                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 20:56                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-27 21:57                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  3:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-26 11:31       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 14:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-26 15:12           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 15:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-26 15:20         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 16:01           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 17:26             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27  2:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 20:34   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 21:44     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26  0:20     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  0:28       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 15:31       ` Vitalie Spinu

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