From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 21:32:18 +0300 Message-ID: <5532A332.6000101@yandex.ru> References: <87383xk4ia.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <55329AD9.4090303@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429381957 30483 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2015 18:32:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 18:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Taylan_Ulrich_Bay=c4=b1rl=c4=b1/Kammer?= , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 20:32:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YjXXb-0004nK-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:32:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46547 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjXXb-0004iM-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjXXX-0004i4-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjXXU-0001cA-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]:35751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjXXU-0001c4-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so55583804wid.0 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eq9m13zyY5kX508p1SQ0araDzjacCb2LOtKNYu53T2k=; b=rjcYkzIamJ2H8AcU3ckqHg91uIbfAug4ocy1FTcNT/CB9+Cl1fb/1Hwee2CGi5JmlW mfc0yc6hy+4M/idm2NaENvOzVTKm3uod15ankgAlaW5XdNdPrLHadhaoj7WqnMit0/Wk 4UDt8oP1XH/f3VtvFCkSyYxIaWDI3F9R+1ElAPsIF2VaJ5pZckqFFCClVij30HzKnsvY 4da7Cp89Iwwnsh28ZEDlzfdGpBcwUJv/gy4zUJLvF1pPvvvn/FhDOs3e7WgZLo0B0cCn dHSB3amXbJcynwelRQ+5Oa2p4wCyvpM92PP4pVGTFxf1uIDRULwp7TRowh/3UoQv1783 LC/A== X-Received: by 10.194.109.97 with SMTP id hr1mr16291366wjb.10.1429381943533; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ew10sm7903301wic.22.2015.04.18.11.32.21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/36.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185628 Archived-At: On 04/18/2015 09:24 PM, Artur Malabarba wrote: > Yes, but it would only solve the custom.el problem, not the more > general package.el problem. The "more general package.el problem" is still there unless (or until) the user interacts with the Customize interface, isn't it? Then it's not a complete solution either.