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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 44932@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#44932: 28.0.50; MINIBUF 'nomini' for window-in-direction
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:49:44 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54f141f9-0861-4b2e-a87c-db1c5253bd7f@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83sg8qi4yy.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > > I don't know why MINI-WINDOW would be better than
> > > MINIBUF. Is this distinction significant here?
> >
> > IMHO, MINI-WINDOW would be worse.  It's not
> > about a small window.
> 
> "Mini-window" is accepted terminology in Emacs, it is used, e.g., in
> resize-mini-windows.  So there's nothing wrong with using that.  (And
> yes, usually that window _is_ small.)

You're discussing only how to refer to this
parameter in doc strings.  I contributed my 2 cents.

As for the "accepted terminology" of "mini-window",
I've also given my opinion about that unfortunate
name more generally:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11276#24

  "it is wrong to use only "mini" here.  This is not
   just a mini-window, i.e., a small window - it is a
   minibuffer window.  See bug #3320, deemed "wont-fix"
   by Lars:

   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3320.

   Perhaps now that others consider that
   `resize-mini-windows' is a misnomer (for
   additional reasons), this misuse of "mini" can
   be reconsidered."

Bug #3320 was filed at the request of another who also
felt that such "accepted terminology" is unfortunate:

  "these misleading names have bitten me too."

> it is used, e.g., in resize-mini-windows"

And now what was discussed as a bad-name bug has
been canonized as a model of good naming.

You have a chance now, when considering parameter
names, to start to put things on the right track,
even if you don't rename `resize-mini-windows'.

Multiplying wrongs doesn't make a right.





       reply	other threads:[~2020-12-01  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]       ` <<87eekaa8au.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
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     [not found]           ` <<83sg8qi4yy.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-01  3:49             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-12-01 15:38               ` bug#44932: 28.0.50; MINIBUF 'nomini' for window-in-direction Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 20:40 Juri Linkov
2020-11-29  8:22 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-29 19:49   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-30  9:05     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 20:49       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-30 21:09         ` Drew Adams
2020-12-01  3:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01  9:34         ` martin rudalics

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