From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54a1c039-6929-4e4d-ac9b-e7e5daf37c68@default> References: <87wqk6e5zm.fsf@web.de> <87v9euwzbe.fsf@gnus.org> <87blglmjlc.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39872"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 15917@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Smith To: Stefan Kangas , Michael Heerdegen , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 29 18:00:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kYBHf-000AD5-Qp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:59:22 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 09TGuOJJ171397; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:59:22 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34cx1teqmc-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:59:22 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 09TGxJpN008893; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:59:20 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9788 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010290117 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9789 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 priorityscore=1501 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010290117 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:191972 Archived-At: > How about the following? >=20 > diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi > index 81874a04aa..d993b652f5 100644 > --- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi > +++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi > @@ -1582,6 +1582,10 @@ Keymaps > type properly, it automatically handles such sequences as single input > events. >=20 > +Key sequences that consist of @kbd{C-c} followed by a letter (upper or > +lower case) are ``reserved for users,'' and will never conflict with > +any properly designed Emacs extension or Emacs itself. IMO that last part ("will never conflict") sounds too automatic or passive. In code conventions we're really _prescribing_ what we recommend that people _do_ or don't do (active). Here, we really want to suggest/ask that when writing code for use by others you do not bind `C-c' followed by a letter. It's a _request_ to never produce code that conflicts with this recommendation. The point is that these keys are reserved for users. Another way to put that is to ask/tell people writing code to be used by others not to use these keys in that code.