From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Daiki Ueno" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:37:33 +0900 Message-ID: <54a15d860711041737n44d8afa4y74d9a5df66f3be2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711021949q14e59f94g68bc23c603e2923a@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194226669 16439 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2007 01:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:37:49 +0000 (UTC) To: "Daiki Ueno" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 05 02:37:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IoquV-0003KC-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:37:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IoquK-0000nA-Ov for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:37:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IoquI-0000n5-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:37:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IoquF-0000lj-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:37:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IoquF-0000lg-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:37:35 -0500 Original-Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.239]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IoquF-0007jf-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:37:35 -0500 Original-Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f1so878315nzc for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Gvqml/ECK8Tw07z5RagQlioqEbiz7oMnSGw8HR/Dnyk=; b=AyTM4q28Gxb2IB5AapMBUwSlAI4tJPVmUgB7zHp8vOKbPjwyE2+1ldmY9IwSdjh1RG4uxCsBkeYGFqoFE22JvuZWBmJd7I2l1K0jq9P8TH1vrbdCD3QBJGdb+u+WIkB1xOwXnRS44Fc1RAJ0l4KJzn/cKyLCJo++KcB2t+g6z84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=C7Y0VwiMqHfY6B1f16qzz/z3lRCzS+ppeIRkAGcQpeck5TE++85bcK9JTnmBRZd0nusA0GNMMYRIFTJVyKmipKa4QV2TUAyvCLgikKkt2aQ2Z37zpAvugHvSrB35/As41kiq6iUi16xRHcCtTcMDhxNSMHDBaejdE1pUxpZfueg= Original-Received: by 10.143.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr879529wfi.1194226653115; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:37:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.213.14 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:37:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0bac0e526ba0f334 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82531 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65551 Archived-At: 2007/11/5, Ted Zlatanov : > >> Again, you're tightly bound to GnuPG. Does EasyPG support arbitrary, > >> user-supplied ciphers? I didn't see that ability. > > DU> I doubt that the ability is worth considering. Who wants to use > DU> user-supplied ciphers which are appearantly weaker than ones GnuPG > DU> supports? > > The proper question is, why don't you let the users use the ciphers and > external utilities they want? You are assuming that every Emacs user > will a) install GnuPG, and b) find it adequate. Furthermore, you're > basing your "apparently weaker" argument on an example XOR > implementation I supplied to show the API, which is unfair. In that case, the first thing you should do is to provide real "use cases" of user-defined ciphers, I think. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno