From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20056: 25.0.50; Remove non Common Lisp stuff from cl*.el libraries Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:19:10 -0700 Message-ID: <54FCBCCE.5010402@dancol.org> References: <54FC9340.2030703@dancol.org> <4fd5309f-c0bd-486d-8612-a2f724643a2e@default> <54FC9ED3.9000102@dancol.org> <67b0e9f7-5f3f-4a6f-8f07-91e88d881c3b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tAx3q4MdNhvJ60spcmLCAuttP39GFfFT3" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1425849626 28472 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2015 21:20:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 21:20:26 +0000 (UTC) To: Drew Adams , 20056@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 08 22:20:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicQ-0002os-E1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 22:20:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicP-0001o9-Jj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicL-0001nt-Us for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicG-0002mW-Vy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicG-0002ip-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUicF-0004sA-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Colascione Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20056 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20056-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20056.142584956218674 (code B ref 20056); Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20056) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2015 21:19:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39811 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUibZ-0004r8-Rw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:40374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUibX-0004qz-Be for 20056@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:19:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=oi0oEWsf3mQauTMo2dakEhC75gJ9traZRKLidqNFvvE=; b=byAhCVwR6sU+UXobRzEQCATwZJGWTDqy5dULvrmiInjEfjyDfNcY6f8jQY1Fq/jNpNE+LmBRPbOqZkAWu58P0w3Q3MJ9Tfxq65BzJbPst6BB2RdORyrPwTMyyj3nEXU3fnBKVzYGyet6x3aWxnN0rdwyp1cUaYcEMHVbbRZugIn+hjGZhsIQfANf4by+3wFm+W621F3CZ1dfD5R9H2caQmgQgwwS0q/i5aE5pIJccbXTwBKMQScKVwS0pW97UMEPNg6GZGmGRfoElkUUA/sB6PAGuH4yAdxr0xLfIBbxoWxpx/yLDe0mlCrvNroUMFbS7MeZq3NFuMShQqHk2+Y1dg==; Original-Received: from [2620:10d:c081:1101:2ab2:bdff:fe1c:db58] by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YUibV-0007Sb-Ds; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:19:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <67b0e9f7-5f3f-4a6f-8f07-91e88d881c3b@default> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100295 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tAx3q4MdNhvJ60spcmLCAuttP39GFfFT3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2015 02:12 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > It is perfectly fine to extend or redesign Emacs Lisp any way we > like. And we can take whatever we want from Common Lisp and do > whatever we want with it. We need not try to emulate any given > Common-Lisp function or macro. But the things we put in the > Common-Lisp emulation package should be emulations of Common Lisp > things, IMO - things designed by the Common-Lisp designers for > Common Lisp. >=20 > It is not appropriate to add non Common-Lisp things to our > emulation of Common Lisp. That's all. I think cl-lib has long ago stopped being an emulation of common lisp. Now, it's a CL-*inspired* utility library. I doubt that there's a risk of real harmful confusion between this library and actual Common Lisp. --tAx3q4MdNhvJ60spcmLCAuttP39GFfFT3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJU/LzOAAoJEN4WImmbpWBlTSIP/jJk2nNhk7zvnBF9GW9kvqie lGhuOhI6IwFhZBwrOHrOSkDsHBSLUb9pXk9y3Paun7pglWvkfk+28IlwSHvpQBYw KE2C2DIwRTvT59eFKvqLF26ewnWEYE+gp14cZ/P1oleBNIxRNCM1Iawxo2ShDLVf zcXNS8Y09+FAnACG2ZWRMT/UYubTP/w4wz4mSE8lCp1InrLl8sL1asraHMXprY3P w+Uov6SWQlWIM7Ve1mOueaLcb5mYwO2OZni4rG9f13csvCRbxfrutNs9ukIREWN4 N7SLtA9R5ey3t9d33nuhXRfYaJGJSoiggp2c76Vud6MvMCA35xLH37BtzmPVxCIm AdUQfh44RhFiHXzAdEendAY7ig1QW8bXAahHf1encJV46wlDwbKiA54fd1s+dbia 578JclrDkVIMPUPzXv50JT5YeVL/f3L6FU3RdeuDC8mK6Muql93uYz4uBghoL7u7 6adKDRu5Pd+/9BhYiBrv5kmWxUV/lgmgbwW35j4ZlN7x/heNKIUwbCi2AGsdYVbK n7QUXaDLSXFYRQuPAOshQIkvS8OLPR6Do/gOxqPmcEpitZwDy6Rh16LTghSpgC/t D6+2RqfztGkbW0Wp0YHa46V5pdNQG3+Y/fuacl2YQBzH1sdHIHSMaUbVVYaITZ30 Yr+BYnwUbzGoYuDcJhA8 =tTPq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tAx3q4MdNhvJ60spcmLCAuttP39GFfFT3--