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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, Kelly Dean <kelly@prtime.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why is Elisp's defvar weird? And is eval_sub broken?
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:17:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E0AA89.4030802@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmw4gd0pl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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On 02/14/2015 06:36 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> A declaration of free dynamic variables for a function could tell the
>> byte compiler that those free variables aren't typos, since
>> otherwise the byte compiler would expect either the symbol to be
>> declared special or a lexical variable by that name to be in scope.
> 
> There is such a declaration already.  It's called (defvar <foo>).  Tada!
> 
>>> Normally, such conflicts should never happen
>>> because all special vars should be named with a "package prefix", but
>>> sadly, reality is different, so it was indispensable to make this
>>> effect local, to allow lexical-binding code to work reliably.
>> By using llet, the byte compiler will catch such conflicts, and your code
>> (interpreted or compiled) that uses it will work reliably despite the
>> conflicts. This means defvar's weird behavior is no longer needed.
> 
> It's not weird once you understand that it's a compiler directive which
> is absent from the .elc file.

How are users supposed to understand that when it's completely absent
from the documentation?


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-15 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-12 21:32 Why is Elisp's defvar weird? And is eval_sub broken? Kelly Dean
2015-02-13 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14  7:35   ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-14 14:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-15 14:17       ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2015-02-16  5:42       ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-16  7:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 23:39           ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:32               ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20  0:11                   ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20  2:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22  4:11                       ` Proposal for a closed-buffer tracker Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 15:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 22:03                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22 22:23                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-23 13:53                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-23 16:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 21:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-28 10:15                         ` Artur Malabarba

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