From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: David Caldwell <david@porkrind.org>
Cc: 19850@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19850: 25.0.50; [PATCH] configure.ac: Fix site-lisp paths with NS self-contained apps.
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:41:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54DDFEF6.8080500@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54DDA7AA.3060701@porkrind.org>
David Caldwell skrev den 2015-02-13 08:28:
> On 2/12/15 10:57 PM, Jan D. wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> If we keep site-lis as it is, we can have several Emacs versions installed, with different site-lisp:s.
>> Also, changing files in site-lisp does not require root priviliges.
>
> If we keep things as they are now, the site lisp file points to a random
> directory that doesn't exist! Take a look again:
>
>>> "/Users/build/workspace/Emacs-Multi-Build/label/mavericks/emacs-source/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp"
>
Oh, its the compile time place, not the run time. That looks like a bug.
> This Emacs was built on a different machine than the one it's running
> on. My machine has no "build" user and therefore no "/Users/build"
> directory.
>
> I certainly cannot create that directory without being root.
>
>> Your change breaks both those feaures.
>
> No, it actually doesn't. First off, it only affects self contained
> nextstep builds, which (as I described above) are currently totally busted.
>
> Secondly, it doesn't preclude different site lisps for different
> Emacsen. Here's the epaths.h line generated with my patch:
>
> #define PATH_SITELOADSEARCH
> "/Library/emacs/25.0.50/site-lisp:/Library/emacs/site-lisp"
>
> That still ends up with the version in the site lisp path, so there can
> multiple site lisps.
>
> Yes, the site lisp path is in /Library which is root:wheel, but that is
> the correct place to put site wide things on the Mac.
No its not, its /Library/Application Support/Emacs.
> If you want
> non-site wide lisps, you can always edit your .emacs with no root
> privileges. Thinking about it, I'm not sure why non-root is a good idea
> for site wide stuff in the first place: On a multi-user system, it seems
> like a security problem for one user to affect all the other user's
> site-lisp. That *should* require root (like it does on linux).
>
That's not the point. The point is that the Emacs I compile for myself
should by default ignore site wide stuff in global places. It should
require a choice to use it. On Linux-distributions site lisp always
looks like a garbage heap full of bad ideas dumped there by who-nows.
And that's when installing a fresh distribution.
>> I don't think this is a good idea.
>
> Please reconsider. This really seems like the correct fix to me.
>
This is not the correct fix. But we might add something for those that
want a global site-lisp. I'll think about it.
Jan D.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-13 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-12 21:51 bug#19850: 25.0.50; [PATCH] configure.ac: Fix site-lisp paths with NS self-contained apps David Caldwell
2015-02-13 6:57 ` Jan D.
2015-02-13 7:28 ` David Caldwell
2015-02-13 13:41 ` Jan D. [this message]
2015-02-13 19:41 ` David Caldwell
2015-02-14 9:25 ` Jan D.
2015-02-14 10:09 ` David Caldwell
2015-02-13 16:36 ` Jan D.
2015-02-13 16:46 ` Jan D.
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