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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 19466@debbugs.gnu.org, Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#19466: 25.0.50; xref-find-def doesn't find C functions
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:14:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54BE4693.5050804@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BE0B5A.6060706@gmx.at>

On 01/20/2015 10:01 AM, martin rudalics wrote:

> Hmm...  They are documented in the Window Parameters section.  What do
> you miss?

No, that's good enough, thanks. I was looking for that documentation in 
window.el.

>  >> Note in this context that some people might have
>  >> globally bound `quit-window' to some key other than 'q' and might want
>  >> to quit *xref* with that.
>  >
>  > You obviously mean [remap quit-window].
>
> No.  IMO it should be up to the user to remap `quit-window'.

If you're arguing to remove the `q' mapping in 
xref--xref-buffer-mode-map, that's a pretty circumstantial way to go 
about it. And I disagree.

The user is in control either way (they can modify the above map just as 
well), but the binding should be there by default because it's a part of 
the core functionality. `xref-goto-xref' also calls `xref--quit', and 
having one without the other by default would be weird.

> What I meant was that people might be used to kill the *xref* buffer
> along with closing its window or use `kill-buffer' directly on *xref*.
> And that xref should be aware of that and act accordingly, for example,
> by removing its hooks, _if any_.  Probably in `kill-buffer-hook'.

The hooks won't be a real problem. Currently, it sets up none. If we use 
buffer-list-update-hook, that it will fire at most once in each used 
buffer, and then remove itself. There's no harm leaving it in, and 
either way, it's a pretty unimportant detail.

> I don't want to impose my dislike on others.  But if you want to do
> things modally you should give people means to optionally do things
> manually.

Conceptually, doing things in a different way would correspond to a 
different value of xref-show-xrefs-function. Everyone's welcome to try 
creating a different interface.

> IDE lovers, for example, might want to keep a small *xref* window
> permanently open in some corner of the frame, with backward/forward
> buttons for navigating their xref history.

While I like the sound of this, I'm having hard time imagining how xrefs 
would work with back-forward buttons. Suppose the user performed a jump 
to a definition. What contents will xref buffer have after that? The same?

> And I'd probably plug in a timer-driven variant of `xref-next-line'
> where moving to some particular line in the *xref* buffer window will
> display the tag in another window, provided point remains sufficiently
> long on that line.

That's trivial to implement (I'm thinking post-command-hook with sit-for 
rather than a timer), but the hard part is creating, naming and 
documenting the yet-another user option, as far as I'm concerned. Feel 
free to try your hand at it.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-20 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-29 19:27 bug#19466: 25.0.50; xref-find-def doesn't find C functions Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30  4:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 15:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-30 18:25       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 18:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-30 18:38           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 22:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-02 17:52             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-04 20:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-04 20:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-04 23:14                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-05  3:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-05  6:11                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-16  3:37                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-16  7:47                         ` martin rudalics
2015-01-16  9:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-16  9:28                             ` martin rudalics
2015-01-19  3:31                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-19  8:28                             ` martin rudalics
2015-01-19 13:32                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-20  8:01                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-01-20 12:14                                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-01-20 14:51                                     ` martin rudalics
2015-01-21  7:20                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-21 10:49                                         ` martin rudalics
2015-01-21 14:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-21 16:54                                             ` martin rudalics
2015-01-21 18:00                                               ` martin rudalics
2015-01-21 20:02                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22  2:32                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-22 18:22                                                   ` martin rudalics
2015-01-21 19:02                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-22  2:26                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-22 18:22                                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-01-19 17:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-20  2:54                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-20 17:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-20 20:49                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-21 16:25                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22  2:43                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-22 18:02                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22 21:02                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-23  9:03                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 17:34                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-23 21:03                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 22:23                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-24  9:40                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-24 16:47                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-31  8:52                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-01  2:24                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-01 16:01                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-01 20:11                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-01 20:30                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-01 20:53                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-02  3:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-23  2:01                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-24 18:43                                                         ` Project support and completions (Was: Re: bug#19466: 25.0.50; xref-find-def doesn't find C functions) Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-24 22:26                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-24 23:25                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-25  0:21                                                               ` John Yates
2015-01-25 16:09                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-29 21:19                                                                   ` John Yates
2015-01-30  6:19                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-30 13:39                                                                       ` John Yates
2015-01-30 15:36                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-30 18:14                                                                           ` Project support and completions Stefan Monnier
2015-01-30 21:34                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-31  6:37                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-31  7:38                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-31 22:52                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-01 20:42                                                                             ` Stephen Leake
2015-01-30 16:17                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-30 16:26                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-30 20:36                                                                         ` Scott Frazer
2015-01-25 16:08                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-25 18:18                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-25 19:22                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-25 23:03                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-26  5:51                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-25 18:31                                                                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-01-25 15:01                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-25 16:01                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-25 18:33                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-25 19:24                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-25 22:43                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-25 23:05                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-26  3:46                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-26  4:23                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-01-26 15:07                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-26 17:33                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-26 18:51                                                                                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-01-26  5:44                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-26 15:11                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-26 17:34                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-23 21:15                                                   ` bug#19466: 25.0.50; xref-find-def doesn't find C functions Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 21:34                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-16  9:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-04 22:14                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-30 20:43     ` Dmitry Gutov

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