From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jacob Bachmeyer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:47:24 -0600 Message-ID: <54B889CC.9030401@gmail.com> References: <54B1B97E.9070204@gmail.com> <87fvbhk4ha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B456C8.6010506@gmail.com> <8761cbhvhb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B5AA10.7080606@gmail.com> <54B6F8EF.7020401@gmail.com> <54B8326B.90804@gmail.com> Reply-To: jcb62281@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421380082 8957 80.91.229.3 (16 Jan 2015 03:48:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 03:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 16 04:48:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxtB-0002zb-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:48:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxtB-000224-1N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxst-00021o-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:47:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxss-0000dC-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:47:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]:43335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxsk-0000bG-VG; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:47:35 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id va8so17137443obc.3; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:47:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rXUxdEMimafK4t2k4bNyeydzFguxr2a66S8xAokaSic=; b=n6Pb64uNoDdavUgViqZPiAL5vwnUCxX0evI2sE97p6eqhpHGiXNYzlcE0SC7KBwPxO MOCLRglLtG7GgLqjHs43cowGqAytRkoWc4y9m7HIX0FTFGnoDzz9brr559HLUtPfr2yw 2XrtPWBP+Smr1vx8L18VKIGnSBL7m7IjSm5pUHx9J+wREGVmjUtFi4f11G+fe7kNVf8A 1TDT6GeO+qCbdH+ZdzyKi4NpziWHBXvAMAmaqYOgVdNWYFhCnuGOWSXnXFqGhVJtWWca +bRT0XmhKBT8evvH+w8cy9gED8gSTIW4LVlN9qPVZoPJbko1EAeWkzSYRGWx8ApYm6rz Jsnw== X-Received: by 10.202.184.135 with SMTP id i129mr7699942oif.68.1421380054457; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:47:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.2.42] (adsl-70-133-148-241.dsl.ablntx.sbcglobal.net. [70.133.148.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m15sm1006975oeu.10.2015.01.15.19.47.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:47:34 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090807 MultiZilla/1.8.3.4e SeaMonkey/1.1.17 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181319 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The situation with Emacs will be the same as it is with GCC now: > plug-ins have to be GPL. > This illuminates the central question at hand: if an Emacs plugin is GPL, and provides access to internals of GCC, which is also GPL, can nonfree software use that Emacs plugin? I think that the answer to this question is "no", and that this provides a means to export GCC's AST to Emacs without opening the AST to nonfree software.