From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generate ChangeLogs Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:40:23 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <54809C87.1070606@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <547FFFE3.9000100@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417714863 7459 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2014 17:41:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 18:40:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwaOd-0003KN-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 18:40:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46934 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwaOd-00035d-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:40:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwaOT-0002uz-CY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:40:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwaOK-0001Fz-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:44517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwaOJ-0001Fr-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7902A600DA; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:40:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 179-AhzRn-Oe; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:40:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47322A6001C; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:40:26 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178843 Archived-At: On 12/04/2014 07:40 AM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > In that case, I say "yes" to start generating the ChangeLogs. Stefan wrote that he's in favor of the idea, so there's a+1 there, too. (I wrote the patch to do it, so it should be pretty obvious that I'm in favor.) My biggest worry, to be honest, is Glenn, who tidies up ChangeLogs more than anyone else does. It's more of a hassle to do that when ChangeLogs are generated automatically. My own feeling is that, although I understand the pull of having the logs look good, our limited resources can be put to better use in areas other than tidying up ChangeLogs, and I'm willing to live with somewhat-messier ChangeLogs if we can trade that for a simpler workflow and/or other improvements elsewhere.