From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:35:07 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <547A4A1B.9060807@cs.ucla.edu> References: <21606.10799.112099.788101@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <1753218.Ot8JCqssfN@descartes> <546AABCF.8030705@cs.ucla.edu> <9xioico2nm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k32s9zm5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417300547 11226 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 22:35:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:35:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 23:35:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuqc5-0000HB-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:35:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuqc5-00080T-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:35:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuqbt-0007zS-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuqbl-0001bN-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:35:24 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:60686) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuqbl-0001bI-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:35:17 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3719A60016 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:35:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wf3K-pIWHYNY for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:35:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-177-17-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.177.17.123]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 190CA39E807B for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:35:08 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178492 Archived-At: As a heads-up, it's looking like we won't be generating ChangeLogs automatically any time soon. Any automated procedure would entail some minor changes to what ChangeLogs look like (e.g., spacing, order, commit dates), and this is likely to clash with at least one developer's preferences. In Bug#19113 Stefan said he'd rather leave things alone unless we get explicit agreement from all the core maintainers, a bar sufficiently high that I'm taking it as a polite way of saying "let's not do this".