From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFC] Correctly handling MinGW-w64 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:02:22 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <546A1C0E.10204@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87r3x2qyjg.fsf@wanadoo.es> <546973D0.7050306@cs.ucla.edu> <87ioieqxbb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54697A45.1040505@cs.ucla.edu> <87egt1rhy4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83a93pddo9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416240200 20549 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2014 16:03:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:03:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 17:03:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqOli-0000Gc-Dt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:03:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48612 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqOli-0004kG-1d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqOlJ-0004Uh-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:02:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqOl7-0006ut-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:02:45 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:53808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqOl7-0006u6-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CAEA6000F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:02:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id spNHRqqtdAP9 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:02:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-177-17-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.177.17.123]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08500A60004 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:02:23 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83a93pddo9.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177431 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Didn't we toss the src/s/*.h files for this very reason? Of course. But that was something different: those .h files contained information that could not be inferred from already-existing C code and therefore had to be configured. They were handcrafted subroutines of 'configure', so to speak, just as m4/*.m4 is now. The case we are talking about is different, because this information can be inferred from already-existing C code. Here, there's no need to involve 'configure' or any of its subroutines no matter what technology they use. Given that we're now requiring GNU Make, I expect there's a lot of other stuff we could now move out of 'configure', if we had the time. Which would be a good thing: 'configure' is reaaally slow and is a pain to maintain. The smaller it is, the better.