From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18990: 25.0.50; Scroll bar display problems Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:14:31 +0100 Message-ID: <545E3357.4050308@gmx.at> References: <87ioiqaa63.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <83tx2aqg8p.fsf@gnu.org> <1918BF0D-0785-4A0F-8CDD-E421EC3F6649@swipnet.se> <87lhnlzs2k.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415459731 10985 80.91.229.3 (8 Nov 2014 15:15:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18990@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stephen Berman , "Jan D." Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 08 16:15:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jV-00053h-5W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:15:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36087 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jU-0002Qs-IY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jL-0002Qg-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:15:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jD-0004Of-Q9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jD-0004OP-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7jD-0002xS-7d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:15:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18990 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18990-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18990.141545968911336 (code B ref 18990); Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18990) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2014 15:14:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7iy-0002wl-EA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:14:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:65153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn7iv-0002wd-PX for 18990@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:14:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [178.191.140.15] ([178.191.140.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRWzQ-1XcAPJ2I4u-00Segy; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:14:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lhnlzs2k.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:YtnzJnXxnBHYTdcC70eCQWH8oVsh7NKJGy3FeFBb7Ol8q85hhHz r7Z2hk1JdHEFWj7Y/16326HKsI/Ukcddyr5uITDQ0Np8UiSK7f3Kq39eEelerqDVdfWMHwt b+s4mTgLvfKxosipHCqcgFtaDff5j4gMdx39RJkfgb8tSU4weVuXZG8C/uh/PhMi4RTvooC MtKMaFeekKENmZRbsjnfw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95716 > This is not what I observe: I have no setting for the scroll bar in a > Gtk config file, but when I start emacs with -Q --eval > "(modify-all-frames-parameters '((scroll-bar-width . 7)))", then the > scroll bar is displayed thin on the right, unlike when I make it be on > the left, and the right fringe is not overlaid by the scroll bar like the > left fringe is; see the attached screen shot. The thin scroll bar looks > crappy and clearly is not being properly modified as a toolkit widget, In the attached screenshot the left scroll bar is displayed in its default width (you didn't tell us that value so far) partially overlaying the left fringe of the window on the right. The right scroll bar is cropped at the external border (by the window manager). > but just as clearly Emacs is able to modify it. You mean that Emacs can move the slider? > I guess the easiest > solution would be to make modifying the Gtk scroll bar a noop. The width and the height, yes. The position can be modified without problems. > I hadn't noticed this before, but the attached screen shot confirms it. > Interestingly, the right fringe of the left window is not hidden. Emacs tells Gtk where to put it. Make `scroll-bar-width' very wide and you should be able to see how Gtk reacts. > Do you mean that the above invocation should also make the horizontal > scroll bar thinner? No. The corresponding frame parameter is called `scroll-bar-height'. Some systems allow different values for height and width of scroll bars. >(Does it with the Lucid build?) If so, then I can > confirm that it isn't thinner for me; but I haven't seen any display > glitches either with the horizontal scroll bar like I have with the > vertical scroll bar on the left. I think you need Xaw3d support for Lucid scroll bars. Both Lucid and Motif scroll bars can be arbitrarily resized here. martin