From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Antipov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stack-allocated objects again (+benchmark) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:37:56 +0400 Message-ID: <542ACE54.90304@yandex.ru> References: <54290596.4060702@yandex.ru> <542A18E8.9030601@cs.ucla.edu> <83wq8lkxuq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412091529 16870 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2014 15:38:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 17:38:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzVi-0005p6-Hp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:38:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44010 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzVi-0007it-5i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzVI-0007cJ-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzVB-0006Xm-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from forward1l.mail.yandex.net ([84.201.143.144]:49123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzV2-0006VX-9O; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (smtp2o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.27]) by forward1l.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EE9AE15211C0; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:37:58 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 591F436A3035; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:37:58 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from unknown (unknown [37.139.80.10]) by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id OfbxfD5SOA-bvYmshUA; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:37:57 +0400 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Uniq: 2ae8d6c7-491f-4186-95f8-19956e8bb9e3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1412091477; bh=XDsTBQ3ThfnsN2Rd857Ue+ngAKk3f3q36zn1Yp7M/r0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Gx6IEEux4T0KPsrrIzNkkpdkKLcWkbKYBAux/ieCvWbxkZMtROcJ2WEZgwPXi7iOT TmI3sqNWhOqqDivrQVlmrD81dlOnuddOL6ZN4/RWzUSKnTKx+00Bvc/60XDbmpf9kJ KJRpgbff1SvDumU4WMNo8Vka+Mi96gLJ5Z/gPYAY= Authentication-Results: smtp2o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 In-Reply-To: <83wq8lkxuq.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 84.201.143.144 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174858 Archived-At: On 09/30/2014 06:05 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think it would be beneficial to have some minimal explanations and > instructions wrt when these "scoped" Lisp objects can/should and > cannot/shouldn't be used. The current commentary doesn't explain > enough about the difference between these "scoped" objects and the > other kind, and I'm not sure we want the future hackers to try to > guess that. Let's try to start from r117987; feel free to add something, make a suggestion on further improvements and/or just fix English :-). Dmitry