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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174189 Archived-At: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030703090809010302010901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/10/14 8:06 AM, Sam Steingold wrote: > However, emacs is sufficiently heavy weight (socially) that you (as the= > tramp maintainer) can ask the screen (and tmux and mosh) maintainers to= > add the "-emacs" option which will disable all terminal drawing. Tmux has the relatively unknown -C option which puts it into command mode. Here's what it looks like: $ tmux -C attach %begin 1410464037 1 0 %end 1410464037 1 0 %session-changed $0 0 %layout-change @0 b25d,80x24,0,0,0 %layout-change @1 b25e,80x24,0,0,1 %layout-change @2 b25f,80x24,0,0,2 %layout-change @3 b260,80x24,0,0,3 send-keys "echo hello\n" %begin 1410464043 2 1 %end 1410464043 2 1 %output %0 \015\033[K\033]0;david@death: ~\007\033[01;32mdavid@death\033[00m:\033[01;34m~\033[00m$ echo hello\015\012hello\015\012 %output %0 \033]0;david@death: ~\007\033[01;32mdavid@death\033[00m:\033[01;34m~\033[00m$ detach-client %begin 1410464047 3 1 %end 1410464047 3 1 Lines starting with a % are from tmux, the "send-keys" and "detach-client" are commands I sent to it. Though I suspect for the purposes you want, there's still too much terminal nonsense going on--tmux command mode just lets you get to the heart of tmux, but input and output to the processes it controls is still very terminal oriented. -David --------------ms030703090809010302010901 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMYDCC BiQwggUMoAMCAQICAwkFtDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBjDELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNV BAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRl IFNpZ25pbmcxODA2BgNVBAMTL1N0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgUHJpbWFyeSBJbnRlcm1lZGlh dGUgQ2xpZW50IENBMB4XDTE0MDIxODEwNDcxNFoXDTE1MDIxOTEyNTQzNVowQDEbMBkGA1UE AwwSZGF2aWRAcG9ya3JpbmQub3JnMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJkYXZpZEBwb3JrcmluZC5v cmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDkzgZ2USy/IIF69iMaP5dgxFrN 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