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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m23sm4487871ljb.87.2020.05.02.12.52.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 May 2020 12:52:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ees2vplv.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179538 Archived-At: > Is it customary to show release dates on printed books? I don't > think I see that on title pages of a few books I tried. Strange... Not 100% of them will have it, but the date should usually be there. Maybe it depends on country or/and trends? Look for example at PDF of Texinfo or Bash or LaTeX2e unofficial ref manual, although they are not printed. N.b. printed books usually have some dates on the next page (copyright page?) after title page. Informations "who wrote", "what wrote", "release number", "who published", "when published", should be on title page in my opinion. > And how will the "release date" be defined, and by whom? By someone who builds official release of Emacs manual - his OS date, if I understand correctly how it works, will be printed there. If we want more control then @set - @value pair should be used. S. U.