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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Entering Unicode characters
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 08:04:45 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53a037f4-6ce9-4d2d-bd2b-bcd8af9c2c02@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org>>

> > "C-x 8 RET" should give you any unicode character by name.
> 
> That is useless in practice, because it requires users to know these
> long and often obscure names.  When I wanted to do this, I was unable
> to do it with C-x 8.  I was totally stumped!  All I could do was try
> to find a file which had the character I wanted.
> 
> We need a way to enter any Unicode character that is EASY to use
> and does not require using its official name.

It's a _lot_ easier if completion matching is at least substring,
and much easier still if you can combine multiple input patterns
to match (e.g. multiple substrings).

But yes, some of the char names are hard to imagine (and thus
match).  It would help if a user could narrow the choices by
specifying a character category, for example.

Even just providing a set of insertion commands for different
categories could help.  E.g., if you know you want a math symbol
then you complete against only math-symbol names.  Or if you want
a Greek character then you complete only against their names.

Emacs could at least provide such a set of insertion commands,
and let users decide when and whether to bind some of them.
`C-x 8 RET' is a very wide brush to paint with.  It is a great
command, IMO, but its power and generality can limit its usefulness
for quick insertion of a char from a limited set of chars.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-25 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-11  3:09 A proposal for removing obsolete packages Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-11 14:41 ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-11 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-12  4:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-19  5:28     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20  2:54       ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-20  7:25         ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 17:05           ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-20 17:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 19:52               ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:38                 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-20 20:46                   ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 21:03                     ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-21  3:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:22                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-21  3:02             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-23 21:15               ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-23 22:03                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24  1:02                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:08                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:56                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24 21:44                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25  2:37                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25  1:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-25  4:41                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25 15:37                     ` Entering Unicode characters Richard Stallman
2016-01-25 16:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:20                         ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-25 17:51                           ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-25 20:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26  1:24                             ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-26  3:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 18:59                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-25 19:28                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26  8:38                         ` Oleh Krehel
2016-01-25 21:36                       ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-25 22:17                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 22:26                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26  9:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:55                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-26 14:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26 14:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 21:41                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-27  3:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  6:01                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-28 23:16                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-29  8:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 15:51                                         ` handa
2016-01-29 16:14                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 16:24                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-01-30  3:03                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  7:36                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 12:16                                             ` handa
2016-01-30 13:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 11:31                           ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-27  0:46                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 12:40                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-26 15:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 17:08                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26 17:37                             ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26 18:08                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 18:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 11:56                           ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 12:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 13:59                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 14:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 11:20                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-07 18:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 18:42                               ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-08 14:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 14:25                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:18                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10  0:12                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 17:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 18:19                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 22:02                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 13:02                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 17:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 13:26                                       ` Dale Snell
2016-02-10  0:11                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  6:01                                   ` Alexis
2016-02-09 15:21                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  0:11                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  1:16                                         ` Alexis
2016-02-10 14:16                                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-11 18:59                                             ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                                       ` <<E1aTINY-0007Rg-IA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-10  2:07                                         ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  4:14                                           ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-10 14:15                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  0:08                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  4:17                                       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2016-02-08 14:18                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-12 11:32                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-13 15:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <<E1aO05V-0007eR-Kw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58                           ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 13:01                   ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26  9:36                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:30                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-27  0:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  1:03                           ` Alexis
2016-01-27 22:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  8:41                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<m2a8nu46ff.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <<E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-25 16:04                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-01-25 16:18                         ` Entering Unicode characters Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 16:43                 ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages John Wiegley
2016-01-26 17:32                   ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03  4:45                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 21:49     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-14  5:19       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-17 22:53         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-14 23:09       ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-16  4:13         ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-16 19:10           ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-18 18:47             ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-19 13:51               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-19 14:54           ` Phillip Lord
     [not found] <<m28u3wak2g.fsf@gmail.com>

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