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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Layered display API
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:35:11 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EC205F.7030801@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83iolwif2l.fsf@gnu.org>

On 08/13/2014 07:28 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> The menu code can be extended.  More accurately, we could refactor the
> menu code to provide the capabilities of overlaying text on window
> display for other Lisp features.

Cool. Like Stefan suggested, I'll try playing with a toolkit-less popup 
first, and then you could see if you can provide a similar API with tty 
menus.

I've been under impression that "tty menus" could work in graphical 
mode, too, but now I understand that they're non-portable, like the name 
suggests. That's too bad.

>> Not even menus? My understanding was they might be able to satisfy most
>> of the requirements, aside from working with proportional fonts.
>
> At least with some toolkits, GUI menus have decorations, which will
> look strange if we use them in this capacity.

Yep, I meant "tty menus" there. Not an option.

>>>>> No, I meant conceal the text produced by other display properties, and
>>>>> display your overlay string instead.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't seem to be solving much: if I want to display something in
>>>> the middle of, say, large `display' text, there's no specific span of
>>>> text to set that new property on.
>>>
>>> You'd put it on the overlay string.
>>
>> Let me rephrase the previous message: "...there's no specific span of
>> text to put the overlay on".
>
> The buffer text that is covered by the "large display property" is
> still there, right?  It just isn't displayed.

Why use the special new property, then? Just put a new overlay over it. 
If it also has `display' and higher priority, it would take over.

>> Will the menu allow me to customize the keymap it's using?
>
> Of course!  This is Emacs.  See the end of menu-bar.el: the menu
> navigation keys are defined as a keymap.

So, you would suggest I dynamically rebind `tty-menu-navigation-map'?

> I don't see how buttons can resolve conflicts.  Maybe I'm missing
> something.

If one piece of code creates one button, and another piece of code 
creates another button, they can put different handlers into the button 
properties, so the results of clicking of these buttons will be 
different, even if they are in the same buffer, on the same line.

Same could be done the fringe, at least in theory.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-14  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-05  2:00 bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate Dmitry
2014-08-05  8:38 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 10:03   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 10:16     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 10:24       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 12:20         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 13:05           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-05 13:50             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 11:55               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:13                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:08             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:57         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:12             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 14:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 14:38                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 15:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 15:45                     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-05 17:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06  9:41                         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 14:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 14:41                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 16:26                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 18:02                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 18:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 21:09                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:15                             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 16:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 17:46                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-06 18:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-07 15:08                                     ` martin rudalics
2014-08-07 15:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-07 15:39                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-08-07 16:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-08  8:41                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-08-08  9:16                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-08 10:10                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-08 10:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 13:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-05 21:21       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06  2:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 12:09           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 15:07               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 16:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 16:37                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 12:40           ` Layered display API (was: bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate) Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-06 17:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 18:20               ` Alp Aker
2014-08-06 18:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 20:48                   ` Layered display API Stefan Monnier
2014-08-07  2:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-06 20:49               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-07 15:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-11  1:14                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-11 15:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13  2:42                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-13 12:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 15:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13 16:27                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-13 17:07                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-13 17:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 15:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14  2:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2014-08-14  2:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14 13:12                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-14 15:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-15  1:20                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-15  6:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-15 23:03                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-16  7:41                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-16  9:17                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-08-14  2:06                       ` Bo Lin
2014-08-14  2:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14 16:08                           ` Bo Lin
2014-08-14 16:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-14 16:42                               ` Bo Lin
2014-08-06 20:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-05 13:35 ` bug#18195: 24.3.92; window-screen-lines is not accurate Eli Zaretskii

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