Dear people In the next days I intend to install the attached patch. Its primary aims are to: (1) Finish the transition to pixelwise frame/window size handling (for example, removing the necessity that fringe-sizes are an integral multiple of columns or the remnants of the "extended" scrollbar). (2) Fix the "toolbar/menubar height is part of the frame text height" issue (which the recent change in revision 117561 doesn't). (3) Make the frame size resilient to menu-/tool-/scrollbar/font/fringes changes when it's either maximized/fullscreen or the user generally dislikes implied size changes. (4) Add horizontal scroll bars for the Gtk/Motif/Lucid/Windows builds. Kindly refrain from substantial frame/window code changes in the next few days to make the transition as smooth as possible. And, obviously, please try the patch. Thanks, martin