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From: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: warn-maybe-out-of-memory
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:44:27 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C4B1AB.8010402@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv61izb86o.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 07/15/2014 07:45 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Freeing space from the cache is a trivial action.

AFAICS on Linux, this is not true - in my tests, huge allocations
may be 20% slower when the kernel should reclaim cache space first.
This may be even slower if an OS has to increase swap space
(according to Eli, this may happen on MS-Windows).

> The OS wants to keep as much stuff in the cache as it can, thus
> minimizing the "free" space, since "free" here basically means "wasted".

This depends on usage patterns. If you interleave I/O and relatively
large allocations, it's fairly unreasonable to fill almost all memory
with cached data just to throw it away very soon.

> If your "free" includes "free in RAM + free in swap" then it's
> marginally more useful ("free in RAM" will usually be close to 0,
> whereas "free in swap" should usually be fairly large), but I still
> can't think of a frequent enough configuration and situation where this
> would be useful enough to justify wasting code on it.

This is not expected to be frequent.

Dmitry




  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-15  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-10 18:23 warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-10 18:47 ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11  4:42   ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Dmitry Antipov
2014-07-11  6:50     ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11  8:43       ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Dmitry Antipov
2014-07-11  9:02         ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11  9:43           ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Dmitry Antipov
2014-07-11 10:00             ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11 10:14               ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11 10:34               ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Dmitry Antipov
2014-07-11 12:43                 ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-11 13:46             ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Stefan Monnier
2014-07-12 17:17               ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Glenn Morris
2014-07-13  7:01                 ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Dmitry Antipov
2014-07-13 23:00                   ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Glenn Morris
2014-07-15  3:45                   ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Stefan Monnier
2014-07-15  4:44                     ` Dmitry Antipov [this message]
2014-07-17  3:59                       ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Stefan Monnier
2014-07-11 13:28     ` warn-maybe-out-of-memory Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-10 18:22 warn-maybe-out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii

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