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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 15991@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15991: 24.3.50; Wishlist: Make test suite user-friendlier
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:00:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AD40B3.3060503@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8338eqq4d7.fsf@gnu.org>

On 27.06.2014 08:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:45:57 +0200
>> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
>>
>>>> I guess it would be OK, if $GDB could be set to "gdb --args".  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Could you do it? :)
>>> I confess I don't know quite where you want it to go...
>>
>> testing and debugging are quite different things.
>> IMO it's not a good idea mixing these.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.  When a test fails,
> don't you want to debug Emacs to understand why and find a solution?
>
> So yes, testing and debugging are different things, but when a test
> fails, one frequently needs to debug Emacs.
>
>

That depends. IIUC it's about making it more user friendly.
Perspective of users is different from core developers.

So if, say 10 from 100 tests fail, it doesn't mean to start a debug.
Maybe just taking notice and look, if it matters for current task.

We had that matter already WRT steep learning curve.
Keeping things apart if possible is important.

Best,

Andreas









  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-27 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-28 20:04 bug#15991: 24.3.50; Wishlist: Make test suite user-friendlier Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-28 20:13 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-28 22:32   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26  6:05 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 15:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-26 15:20   ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-26 15:42     ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 15:49       ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27  7:23         ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27  7:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-27  8:57             ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27 15:57           ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27 18:12             ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-27 18:24               ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-28  1:13               ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-28 17:12                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-29 13:30                   ` Michael Albinus
2014-06-26 16:44   ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-26 16:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-26 17:00       ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-27  5:45         ` Andreas Röhler
2014-06-27  6:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-27 10:00             ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2014-06-27 10:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-28 17:19       ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-28 17:42         ` Eli Zaretskii

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