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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: isearch and region ?
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:08:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A25592-F1EF-4216-A85A-63CDDBF41A4D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8Ux9d2OL=CUVr1JKeYOuGrdv8K0GL84wich+-763tvOUA@mail.gmail.com>

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Thank you Yuri.

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 17:31, Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary
> <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would like to know why isearch has been designed so that it does not create a region with the matching string. The thing that appears in the buffer looks like a region, but it is not, and that keeps the user from immediately interacting with the matching string (deleting, overwriting, killing or yanking, etc.)
> 
> isearch is incremental, so most of the region-affecting actions would
> conflict with it.

But search is not incremental and does not return a region either. It just puts point at the end of the match. I guess that's useful when you are trying to create a region from the original point (where you'd put the mark) to the end of the matching string, but that's quite a limited use. Or is search designed only for navigation in the document? What's the point having a search that does not *find*?

Is there a search that returns the matching string as a region?

> * Deleting with Backspace deletes the last character of the pattern
> (conflicts with deleting the region).
> * Typing text adds to the pattern (conflicts with overwriting the region).
> * Pasting (yanking) adds to the pattern, too.

I see that there are lots of isearch-yank commands, but no isearch-kill...

On the help list, I was suggested to use C-backspace after an isearch since the point is at the end of the match, but that only deletes a "word" and not the full match.

By the way, what is the status of the beginning of the match as highlighted by isearch? It is not a mark, and it is not point...

> You would need an isearch command that (1) marks the current
> occurrence as a region, and (2) exits isearch mode so you can affect
> the region with your next command.

I understand that.

> On the other hand, some commands could work right out of isearch mode,
> if suitably implemented:
> 
> * Deleting with Delete.
> * Cutting (killing) and copying.



Jean-Christophe Helary
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@brandelune http://mac4translators.blogspot.com



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-07  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07  7:39 isearch and region ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07  8:31 ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-07  9:08   ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2017-11-07 15:26     ` Drew Adams
2017-11-07 15:54       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-11-07  9:13 ` Damien Wyart

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