From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17247: 24.4.50; end-of-defun bug in elisp Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 19:39:20 +0300 Message-ID: <537B8538.6030009@yandex.ru> References: <53576985.9090305@easy-emacs.de> <87sio5ksio.fsf@yandex.ru> <537B0B49.6000505@easy-emacs.de> <537B46A2.1060705@yandex.ru> <537B7BDE.1070405@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400604032 29256 80.91.229.3 (20 May 2014 16:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17247@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 20 18:40:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn5S-0003Qh-3E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 18:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54550 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn5R-0001iY-Me for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:40:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50642) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn5G-0001iH-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:40:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn59-00067k-0C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn58-00066U-Q7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn58-0005HD-9z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17247 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17247-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17247.140060397420239 (code B ref 17247); Tue, 20 May 2014 16:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17247) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2014 16:39:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54481 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn4f-0005GN-A9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:39:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]:47995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wmn4b-0005G7-Da for 17247@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so6241214wib.5 for <17247@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 May 2014 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XmiLwBNGn3r+Gd5/MJsvi81wqUesKK6UbWRt+8lu5Fs=; b=uveOeVJluL2Dv6wc2U0xnjVwfp//zskkSUxTaECQv55IRQZB6XoxDcHm9d/vwGlVB2 qd0Ht4kz4Q4ZiOrZSAvOQVEP4IEW73Jbv5JMGwiwKxXOgIn0cUUK8EeNFqyFbF4bvezn 75A2pHqeskpK5eUvH343f9PHXG3PqhfAG/qGU5IEDBN15bFjdUHzIDUdckWh6KTCgGV/ cfSOd1ntU1bSt9f1XTdjhCLjx4xOdgZdKFX6TGF8LHvy6QyCrkHOhuY4KEGnL1xhljIH EVK4fhJLTLzmvUSu6xUjojKUtleVr4cQCbngu7k7jCG0mlAzwMHKMfCL4Lm1+cq0Klqv iHAg== X-Received: by 10.180.186.8 with SMTP id fg8mr5113913wic.39.1400603963302; Tue, 20 May 2014 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.36] (static-nbl2-118.cytanet.com.cy. [212.31.107.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s3sm18964845wje.36.2014.05.20.09.39.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 May 2014 09:39:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <537B7BDE.1070405@easy-emacs.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89288 Archived-At: On 20.05.2014 18:59, Andreas Röhler wrote: > Maybe, but is this sane? IMO these commands shoulds always move in one > direction. > Why not behave like forward/backward-word for example? Check out the docstring of `end-of-defun-function'. It has a very specific calling conditions. `forward-word' doesn't really need to know where the current word began (if we're within a word), whereas `end-of-defun-function' often does need to know that. So knowing that it's only ever called from a beginning of defun (or beginning of buffer, I guess) can simplify its implementation.