From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pkg-config required on OSX, why? Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 07:24:58 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <53761FBA.1090709@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5375F003.7050201@swipnet.se> <83y4y1eush.fsf@gnu.org> <537614E8.7050401@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400250380 32350 80.91.229.3 (16 May 2014 14:26:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jan D." , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 16 16:26:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WlJ5N-0004hi-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 16:26:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WlJ5N-0002iM-5v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:26:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WlJ4g-00021I-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WlJ4Z-0007Jp-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:25:26 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:38720) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WlJ4R-00076Q-2s; Fri, 16 May 2014 10:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CA5A60086; Fri, 16 May 2014 07:25:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V-hSj-2tx72s; Fri, 16 May 2014 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A31D0A60013; Fri, 16 May 2014 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <537614E8.7050401@swipnet.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171879 Archived-At: Jan D. wrote: > having pkg-config as a requirement form some macros must mean those > macros are important. What are they? Among other things, the macros test whether pkg-config is present, and they do the right thing when pkg-config is absent. One needs the macros only to run 'autoconf' etc., not to run 'configure'. It does strike me, though, that this new requirement to have pkg-config installed (and in the same place that automake is installed) is a pain. I ran afoul of it myself not five minutes ago, since I use my own automake. I'm inclined to have us copy pkg.m4 into m4, using a new tool (admin/merge-pkg-config, say). That way, someone can periodically upgrade to the latest pkg.m4 manually, and the rest of us won't have to worry about having pkg-config installed correctly.